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Old 07-05-2018, 06:00 AM
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I wouldn't bet your career on answers from these caged wounded dogs. They lost their Union and they will attack the owner that feeds them. I suggest you throw them a bone, stay away from fake news and move on. There are much better sources of employment elsewhere.
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Old 07-05-2018, 06:07 PM
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I wouldn't bet your career on answers from these caged wounded dogs. They lost their Union and they will attack the owner that feeds them. I suggest you throw them a bone, stay away from fake news and move on. There are much better sources of employment elsewhere.
This is one of the most disjointed posts I've seen on APC. I'm pretty sure the poster doesn't work at Flexjet. There is no one owner that feeds anyone here. We have multiple owners and cardholders. They are the ones who feed us. The fact that Flexjet is currently far worse than it was under Bombardier is not fake news. However, I'm glad you agree there are much better sources of employment elsewhere.
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Old 07-07-2018, 04:24 AM
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Just out of curiosity, what is the pay on the 650s?
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Old 07-07-2018, 08:10 AM
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Just out of curiosity, what is the pay on the 650s?
Base salary is $160,000. Plus bonuses.
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Old 07-07-2018, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Blutarsky View Post
This is one of the most disjointed posts I've seen on APC. I'm pretty sure the poster doesn't work at Flexjet. There is no one owner that feeds anyone here. We have multiple owners and cardholders. They are the ones who feed us. The fact that Flexjet is currently far worse than it was under Bombardier is not fake news. However, I'm glad you agree there are much better sources of employment elsewhere.
One doesn’t need to ask the opinion of message board posters to get a real picture of what’s going on at Flexjet. They only need to know the attrition numbers.
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Old 07-07-2018, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by WiskeyTango View Post
Base salary is $160,000. Plus bonuses.
What does the total compensation work out to? Is everyone PIC and pay is the same for everyone?

I'm not familiar with Flexjet and the operation, but for home base not "on call" schedule that pay seems decent.
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Old 07-07-2018, 10:52 AM
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What does the total compensation work out to? Is everyone PIC and pay is the same for everyone?

I'm not familiar with Flexjet and the operation, but for home base not "on call" schedule that pay seems decent.
Well the G650 is a different program. It's called "international Red Label." Different pay structure and schedules. 5 captains (no first officers), one is "commander" and gets paid more. The 5 pilots figure out a schedule amongst themselves, but if one calls in sick another has to come to work. So you don't have hard days off, ever.

I'm not really sure what kind of bonus those pilots are making. It's probably a decent amount, as in 10's of thousands over the course of the year.

The challenger 350 pays more, and you get home basing and hard days off. There are pilots who have bid out of the G's and into the challengers.
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Old 07-07-2018, 11:51 AM
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That's pretty interesting. Thank you for the information. How does the 350 pay work? I looked briefly at the pay scale on here and it looks like everything is a day rate? Nonetheless, sounds like good pay on the Challenger as well.
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Old 07-07-2018, 02:15 PM
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That's pretty interesting. Thank you for the information. How does the 350 pay work? I looked briefly at the pay scale on here and it looks like everything is a day rate? Nonetheless, sounds like good pay on the Challenger as well.
Yes daily rate on the challengers (which is good. If you get stuck out on the road for whatever reason you get paid for it). Plus a bonus. The 350 does pay well, however it’ll take 15+ years to get there. Meanwhile the first officer and Lear/phenom/CL300 captain pay is below industry average. It’s an odd pay philosophy that the company adheres to. Pay 20% of your employees above average, and 80% below average. It’s suppose to make people want to stay. Doesn’t have that effect however.
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Old 07-08-2018, 03:18 PM
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Plenty of airlines hiring fractional pilots. SWA, Spirit and JB appear to be actively hiring Netjets pilots.
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