What Will I Take For Granted?
03-15-2018, 02:40 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by November Seven
However, the outright disrespect on this board ...
The 'demo/do' post, the 'it still gives me pause (taking my children as pax)' post, and the 'doctor-killer' post, and pretty much everything JohnBurke said until you got mouthy all come to mind. Great stuff.
Originally Posted by November Seven
What I will not do, is allow myself to be disrespected or taken for granted without ultimately firing my CFI, or not hiring them in the first place. ... So, I need to be responsible up front for selecting the right individual for the job at hand.
03-15-2018, 03:44 PM
#42
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Originally Posted by November Seven
Mistaking envy for experience would be easy, if it were not for the continual nonsequitur reply that drips with envy, is off-topic and has zero logical connection with the question at hand and is rather more an outright expulsion of the notion that somehow, someone other than yourself is capable, even without just qualification for the absurd implication.
Having flown over 80 different aircraft types, several decades of experience, and like most here, employed to fly several hundred-million dollar aircraft around the globe...you really want to make such an outlandish, absurd suggestion that I, or anyone else here, is actually jealous of a student pilot? It's not possible to be farther off base, or to make more idiotic conjecture.
Most here are professional pilots with a long background flying everything from fighter aircraft to widebody heavies. Many have post graduate degrees, and quite a few here own their own business. Many of us are multi-qualified in several disciplines, and have zero reason to be "jealous." Not remotely close, mate.
As I said before, don't mistake experience for jealousy. Making observations based on decades of experience isn't jealousy. Sometimes it's best to shut up and listen, rather than spout of with this kind of stupidity. Jealousy? No. Sit on your hands so you don't talk so much, and listen. You might actually learn something.
03-15-2018, 05:26 PM
#43
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Originally Posted by November Seven
No idea I'd run into this much envy in a forum dedicated to Airline Pilots. Amazing and unreal, both at the same time.
Please prove me wrong.
Until then, I am confident your airplane will contain the best Plane Coffee on the planet.
03-15-2018, 05:57 PM
#44
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Originally Posted by November Seven
No idea I'd run into this much envy in a forum dedicated to Airline Pilots. Amazing and unreal, both at the same time.
Ski Bird’s post pretty much put into words what I was thinking. I couldn’t quite figure it out, but was getting big red flags reading your posts. John Burke’s subsequent posts were also spot on.
Nothing is set in stone, you can do this and be successful, but your start has me concerned (not envious).
03-15-2018, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Ski Bird
I'm not sure I would agree. Most of the responses have been pure gold.
However, it did not take very long for the majority of those same exact individuals to turn tails, run knives in my back and then proclaim they had somehow found the real Jesus in my previous posts that they (apparently) misread the first time. Others claimed that they subsequently discovered the real Jesus in my previous posts that they had not encountered before. Really?
I could enable more of that kind of nonsequitur reply just by posting the truth that anyone in my position would post - asking reasonable questions. But, I won't waste my time. Maybe the concept was a bit too much for them to grasp. After all, some say they thought I was trying to get with an Airline. Huh? I never said that. Some say they thought I was trying to land a Corporate job. Huh? I never said that. It proves they responded to something without even knowing what they were responding too.
I ran a Google search. Google came back with a website calling itself "Airline Pilot Forums." I think to myself, great. This has to be a site where I can get good advice and opinions from experienced pilots who themselves must fly jets. I register, carefully craft my OP and start asking sensible questions. Now, where are we. Hate. Jealousy. Envy. Spite. That's where we are, if the real truth be told and absolutely none of it came from me.
I came, I saw and I asked the kinds of questions and made the kinds of inquiries that anyone in my position would be and should be putting forth to qualified individuals who allegedly have the skill, knowledge and expertise to offer well reasoned reply (if they so desired). Instead, they wanted to turn the matter into a personal vendetta of some kind, for whatever reason they found fit. Roger That. I got it. Just more fuel.
Thank you for the well wishes. I will move on to the next phase and continue the journey forward. I realize that I have a lot of work ahead of me and very significant responsibility to take ownership of, if I truly want to turn this dream into daily reality for the next 20-25 years.
Cheers.
03-15-2018, 07:31 PM
#46
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You're what it often called a troll. Your character has changed the more you talk, and you've clearly revealed yourself as a combination of several of the dangerous personality types in the cockpit. An instructor would be foolish to trust you, or waste his time with you. The signal-to-noise ration will be vastly improved by placing you on the ignore list.
Much better.
Originally Posted by November Seven
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03-15-2018, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
You're what it often called a troll. Your character has changed the more you talk, and you've clearly revealed yourself as a combination of several of the dangerous personality types in the cockpit. An instructor would be foolish to trust you, or waste his time with you. The signal-to-noise ration will be vastly improved by placing you on the ignore list.
Much better.
Much better.
Roger That.
03-15-2018, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by PRS Guitars
I think This is aimed at me. I’m not envious at all. I actually just answered your topic question and you’re now proving my point. For the record, I believe that many owner pilots can safely fly VLJ’s. But with your attitude (might be the wrong word, hard to explain)...I don’t believe you are one of them. Galley cafe nailed it. I pretty much felt like if I didn’t post, I’d be cringing in 5 to 10 years after reading the NTSB report.
Ski Bird’s post pretty much put into words what I was thinking. I couldn’t quite figure it out, but was getting big red flags reading your posts. John Burke’s subsequent posts were also spot on.
Nothing is set in stone, you can do this and be successful, but your start has me concerned (not envious).
Ski Bird’s post pretty much put into words what I was thinking. I couldn’t quite figure it out, but was getting big red flags reading your posts. John Burke’s subsequent posts were also spot on.
Nothing is set in stone, you can do this and be successful, but your start has me concerned (not envious).
03-15-2018, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by galleycafe
I fear I will read your NTSB report in the near future to include a final CVR audio clip.
Please prove me wrong.
Until then, I am confident your airplane will contain the best Plane Coffee on the planet.
Please prove me wrong.
Until then, I am confident your airplane will contain the best Plane Coffee on the planet.
03-15-2018, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
The 'lacks experience' observation was all about you, and your comments.
Having flown over 80 different aircraft types, several decades of experience, and like most here, employed to fly several hundred-million dollar aircraft around the globe...you really want to make such an outlandish, absurd suggestion that I, or anyone else here, is actually jealous of a student pilot? It's not possible to be farther off base, or to make more idiotic conjecture.
Most here are professional pilots with a long background flying everything from fighter aircraft to widebody heavies. Many have post graduate degrees, and quite a few here own their own business. Many of us are multi-qualified in several disciplines, and have zero reason to be "jealous." Not remotely close, mate.
As I said before, don't mistake experience for jealousy. Making observations based on decades of experience isn't jealousy. Sometimes it's best to shut up and listen, rather than spout of with this kind of stupidity. Jealousy? No. Sit on your hands so you don't talk so much, and listen. You might actually learn something.
Having flown over 80 different aircraft types, several decades of experience, and like most here, employed to fly several hundred-million dollar aircraft around the globe...you really want to make such an outlandish, absurd suggestion that I, or anyone else here, is actually jealous of a student pilot? It's not possible to be farther off base, or to make more idiotic conjecture.
Most here are professional pilots with a long background flying everything from fighter aircraft to widebody heavies. Many have post graduate degrees, and quite a few here own their own business. Many of us are multi-qualified in several disciplines, and have zero reason to be "jealous." Not remotely close, mate.
As I said before, don't mistake experience for jealousy. Making observations based on decades of experience isn't jealousy. Sometimes it's best to shut up and listen, rather than spout of with this kind of stupidity. Jealousy? No. Sit on your hands so you don't talk so much, and listen. You might actually learn something.
Roger That.
