What Will I Take For Granted?
#51
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Proof positive that none of you nonsequitur replying narcissists have any idea what you are replying to. It amazes me that people who are supposed to have such Situational Awareness, can't even comprehend what they've read, misquote what's so clearly written and then claim to be offering helpful advice and constructive criticism. Illogical and only that which can be explained through ulterior motives.
Envy, is not what you think it is. It never was. Envy, is an internal flaw. It has nothing to do with your emotions, feelings or thoughts about another. Envy, jealousy, hate, spite. Its all about YOU, not anyone else.
No serious minded Pilot would ever read the questions that I put to this forum and conclude what some of you have implied unless you were operating from a position of internal contradiction.
This country breeds haters like mice. We are tearing this country apart right now, because of hate. Hate is destroying our Republic. Hate is ripping the fabric of our nation to shreds. The problem? Few recognize it, fewer are correcting it and even fewer still care about it. I truly fear for what this place is going to be like in a short 175 years from now, according to my take on history.
You really want to accomplish something? Stop the hate in America. "Fly Over Country?" Who the heck came up with that phrase. Haters, that's who. Buying a VLJ? Who the heck cares - airplanes are being bought and sold every day.
The questions were about becoming Safe and Proficient. They were not about personal hang-ups, internal contradictions, feigning ritual advice or proving yourself as an Expert. You did not have to prove that to me. Had I thought you were lacking that "expertise," I would not have wasted my time coming here in the first place. So, your expertise was never the issues here - ergo, you had no business trying to prove it.
What was at issue here was my survival. Yet, you somehow mistook that as being something else. That can only happen when you operate from an ulterior motive, because my questions were vividly clear and abundantly obvious to any truly experienced Pilot.
If the shoe does not fit, then your ego won't allow you to wear it. But, if the shoe does fit, adorn that shoe proudly because your performance here has earned it.
Now, I've got a Program to build. I can't find one already in existence anywhere on planet earth that fits what I'm trying to accomplish. I am not going to allow your "trolling" behavior to somehow knock me off course. Ergo, that Program must be constructed from scratch, which means research, study and exposure to experts.
The sign on the door says: Airline Pilot Central. The questions where about going from zero to single pilot VLJ as proficiently as possible. One would think that Airline Pilot Central would be able to handle going from zero to single pilot VLJ as proficiently as possible with the greatest of ease. One would think that and one would also be wrong, if their only stop along the way was Airline Pilot Central.
Fortunately, this visit was a small fraction of a much larger research project and I will not allow the small mindedness to derail that project. This was one variable that did not work out. One of many that did work out. In the collective, this project is right on track for success, despite the naysayer's hate, envy, jealousy and narcissism.
Roger That.
Envy, is not what you think it is. It never was. Envy, is an internal flaw. It has nothing to do with your emotions, feelings or thoughts about another. Envy, jealousy, hate, spite. Its all about YOU, not anyone else.
No serious minded Pilot would ever read the questions that I put to this forum and conclude what some of you have implied unless you were operating from a position of internal contradiction.
This country breeds haters like mice. We are tearing this country apart right now, because of hate. Hate is destroying our Republic. Hate is ripping the fabric of our nation to shreds. The problem? Few recognize it, fewer are correcting it and even fewer still care about it. I truly fear for what this place is going to be like in a short 175 years from now, according to my take on history.
You really want to accomplish something? Stop the hate in America. "Fly Over Country?" Who the heck came up with that phrase. Haters, that's who. Buying a VLJ? Who the heck cares - airplanes are being bought and sold every day.
The questions were about becoming Safe and Proficient. They were not about personal hang-ups, internal contradictions, feigning ritual advice or proving yourself as an Expert. You did not have to prove that to me. Had I thought you were lacking that "expertise," I would not have wasted my time coming here in the first place. So, your expertise was never the issues here - ergo, you had no business trying to prove it.
What was at issue here was my survival. Yet, you somehow mistook that as being something else. That can only happen when you operate from an ulterior motive, because my questions were vividly clear and abundantly obvious to any truly experienced Pilot.
If the shoe does not fit, then your ego won't allow you to wear it. But, if the shoe does fit, adorn that shoe proudly because your performance here has earned it.
Now, I've got a Program to build. I can't find one already in existence anywhere on planet earth that fits what I'm trying to accomplish. I am not going to allow your "trolling" behavior to somehow knock me off course. Ergo, that Program must be constructed from scratch, which means research, study and exposure to experts.
The sign on the door says: Airline Pilot Central. The questions where about going from zero to single pilot VLJ as proficiently as possible. One would think that Airline Pilot Central would be able to handle going from zero to single pilot VLJ as proficiently as possible with the greatest of ease. One would think that and one would also be wrong, if their only stop along the way was Airline Pilot Central.
Fortunately, this visit was a small fraction of a much larger research project and I will not allow the small mindedness to derail that project. This was one variable that did not work out. One of many that did work out. In the collective, this project is right on track for success, despite the naysayer's hate, envy, jealousy and narcissism.
Roger That.
#52
Meh. In my opinion, you're just borrowing trouble. Drama for drama's sake, in other words.
This is a difficult craft to learn. It's even more difficult when someone presents with a style that is as combative and prone to butthurt as yours.
I'm pretty sure the major disconnect that is occurring is that you are approaching the 'can I learn this' problem from a very different place that we all know to be true. Without meaning to, you said some foolish or unadvisable things, and when cautioned ... react as if personally insulted.
What most of the guys were offering was a gut check after you made a few unintentionally nonsensical statements. They brought up concerns regarding what, to anyone with a bit of experience in the field, would be seen as a red flag.
I've got a pretty good idea where the root of this misunderstanding is coming from. Some of your entering arguments are in need of adjustment — to better align with the reality of how a pilot is taught his craft — but the game's not worth the candle at this point.
Again, I wish you luck, but you will not find what you are looking for.
This is a difficult craft to learn. It's even more difficult when someone presents with a style that is as combative and prone to butthurt as yours.
I'm pretty sure the major disconnect that is occurring is that you are approaching the 'can I learn this' problem from a very different place that we all know to be true. Without meaning to, you said some foolish or unadvisable things, and when cautioned ... react as if personally insulted.
What most of the guys were offering was a gut check after you made a few unintentionally nonsensical statements. They brought up concerns regarding what, to anyone with a bit of experience in the field, would be seen as a red flag.
I've got a pretty good idea where the root of this misunderstanding is coming from. Some of your entering arguments are in need of adjustment — to better align with the reality of how a pilot is taught his craft — but the game's not worth the candle at this point.
Again, I wish you luck, but you will not find what you are looking for.
Last edited by Ski Bird; 03-16-2018 at 01:45 AM. Reason: fixed a typo
#53
N7 One thing you have taken for granted already is your absolute sense of superiority.
Flying at Private pilot level is not rocket science and you don’t need Albert Einstein to teach you basic math.
However you seem to be convinced you need or are entitled to the absolute best or what you perceive to be so.
Tell you what, this may come as a shock to the system but even an average instructor will do a decent job on your Private.
You’re obviously well read in the subject matter but that doesn’t mean you actually know what you’re talking about. It’s only book knowledge as you have no experience to correlate it.
So I’m going to throw the towel in the ring and not put any time, effort or thought into trying to provide you with a professional answer.
As it’s proven to be useless.
Flying at Private pilot level is not rocket science and you don’t need Albert Einstein to teach you basic math.
However you seem to be convinced you need or are entitled to the absolute best or what you perceive to be so.
Tell you what, this may come as a shock to the system but even an average instructor will do a decent job on your Private.
You’re obviously well read in the subject matter but that doesn’t mean you actually know what you’re talking about. It’s only book knowledge as you have no experience to correlate it.
So I’m going to throw the towel in the ring and not put any time, effort or thought into trying to provide you with a professional answer.
As it’s proven to be useless.
#54
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Most pilots take for granted the things that are beyond their control. I worked in manufacturing and maintenance for a few years. That instilled enough fear to keep me on the ground whenever possible. Flying is just like riding a motorcycle on the street. You have to rationalize its safety or else you would never do it.
#56
The difference between an airplane and a horse is the horse has an innate sense of its own survival; a plane doesn’t. The plane could not care less if you crash and, once airborne, only you can bring it safely back to Earth. As I suggested, read thru the NTSB/FAA accident reports involving turbine-powered, owner-operated airplanes. It’s chilling and EVERYONE one of those pilots thought they were smarter than the “system”; that is, their instruction, their limitations and their aircraft.
You have reached out to professionals engaged in aviation as pilot and asked for advice. The total years flight experience represented here to you easily equates to many lifetimes. When you haven’t received the answers you sought; your response wasn’t humble or thoughtful; it many times was dismissive or insulting. Carry on this way with any reputable instructor or school and you may well be shown the door. Or much worse, your money will ensure a continued audience until the inevitable investigation.
Go out buy some flying time with an instructor, but better be willing to check that ego at the door.
GF
You have reached out to professionals engaged in aviation as pilot and asked for advice. The total years flight experience represented here to you easily equates to many lifetimes. When you haven’t received the answers you sought; your response wasn’t humble or thoughtful; it many times was dismissive or insulting. Carry on this way with any reputable instructor or school and you may well be shown the door. Or much worse, your money will ensure a continued audience until the inevitable investigation.
Go out buy some flying time with an instructor, but better be willing to check that ego at the door.
GF
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Another reply from someone who has not read in context. I will not repeat why you are wrong here for the forth time. Please read before responding. That way, I don't have to continually repeat myself. This point has been asked and answered multiple times. This is a history of flight training that causes these questions to arise at this time.
Thank you so much for throwing in the towel and Roger That.
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Most pilots take for granted the things that are beyond their control. I worked in manufacturing and maintenance for a few years. That instilled enough fear to keep me on the ground whenever possible. Flying is just like riding a motorcycle on the street. You have to rationalize its safety or else you would never do it.
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I lack that 20 year history the other guy brings. So, I feel like he can go grab the pliers and make it work because he's been tooling around the shop working on these rigs a lot longer. He's got something to bring to the table that gives him the ability to see those things that could kill him. I don't. I have to be cautious here.
I have a responsibility to make sure I learn the fundamentals in the low-performance single, as those fundamentals end up becoming huge errors of judgement mental focus in the high performance jet.
I sense you understand what I'm getting at. I don't know why it has been so hard for the others to catch on.