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Old 06-07-2020, 08:20 AM
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The ACS added several topics to the initial multi-engine ATP oral exam. You have already completed that. The only questions for a single add on will be about the systems on the airplane used for the check ride and performance calculations. It is a much easier ride than commercial since there are no chandelles or lazy eights but you will have to do a power off 180. Not all DPEs are authorized to give ATP ratings but most who are will have single engine authority. No written test is required. No instructor endorsement is required but of course a few practice sessions would be advisable. Any single engine CFI is authorized to give the training but I would find one with ATP experience.
Will it help you get a job? Who knows. I suspect the caravan and Pilatus operators are more concerned with total time than the ATP since it is easily added during the initial 135.297. On the off chance you get a pink slip trying to get the rating on your own that will probably damage your career prospects more than not having it. Consider the risk/reward.
It's worth it if he thinks he can get a ASEL job.

ASEL ATP ride will be easier than CPL if you're a professional turbine pilot who already holds an ATP. Really shouldn't be a big issue as long as you research your DPE options and don't get some guy who thinks an ATP add-on is a screen for astronaut candidates.
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Old 06-07-2020, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul View Post
I used to know somebody who took his ATP SE in a Cherokee 140.
I did my SEL ATP in a Cessna-172. I didn't get my MEL ATP until I checked out as F/O in the B 747-400 15 years later. The training department wasn't sure what forms to use, since they had never done anything but an initial ATP or just an additional type rating.

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Old 06-07-2020, 01:55 PM
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Yeah it's really so that if i lose my current job now I have something to fall back on. (Caravan, Pc12 etc) i dont get hyped up on ratings. I just want to know what the best and easiest way with what I have to get single engine commercial privileges. Does it count as a 121 failure if I did fail? In today's possible future market any pink slip could be bad.
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Old 06-07-2020, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by tallpilot View Post
The ACS added several topics to the initial multi-engine ATP oral exam. You have already completed that. The only questions for a single add on will be about the systems on the airplane used for the check ride and performance calculations. It is a much easier ride than commercial since there are no chandelles or lazy eights but you will have to do a power off 180. Not all DPEs are authorized to give ATP ratings but most who are will have single engine authority. No written test is required. No instructor endorsement is required but of course a few practice sessions would be advisable. Any single engine CFI is authorized to give the training but I would find one with ATP experience.
Will it help you get a job? Who knows. I suspect the caravan and Pilatus operators are more concerned with total time than the ATP since it is easily added during the initial 135.297. On the off chance you get a pink slip trying to get the rating on your own that will probably damage your career prospects more than not having it. Consider the risk/reward.

this is helpful. Thank you
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