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I think I found a good thing...

Old 06-10-2007, 06:29 PM
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Hi everybody,

I have been looking around for a good school for a few months now.

I've seen the ATP program, seems ok, but not enough total hours at the end of the 90 day fast track to do anything with, and the rest of the big "academys" are all pretty much the same as far as being over priced and set up to get you in and out in as little time possible. Long story short I found a place close to where I live in Los Angeles. The program breaks down like this...


zero, all the way to 1500 hours and an Airline Transport Pilot license in 27 to 30 months - guaranteed - This will include eight different licenses and 500 to 600 hours of multiengine time, of which 500 will be in a heavy turboprop twin engine cargo-airline plane in real world environment.

It is divided into three parts:

Phase one
basic training, giving the student all the required ratings and licenses to become a Commercial Multiengine Pilot and Certified Flight Instructor for Primary, and Instrument.

Phase two
Is the actual internship/training, through which the student builds his/her experience and confidence as PIC, teaching other students in their initial training, and attending mandatory training seminars held by the Chief instructor or his delegates, (Airline interview preparation, career counseling, advanced training techniques, CRM, Turboprop bridge program etc.).

Phase three
Will be a Graduation Grant of 500 hours of training as SIC on a Twin-Engine Turboprop Cargo airplane (Shorts 360, Metroliner, BE-200, BE-1900 or BE-99), in "Real World Environment" with one of our contracted cargo airlines. This will be followed by preparation and achievement of the US Airline Transport Pilot License (FAA-ATPL) at which point the course will be considered ended.
The guaranteed total number of hours achieved during this program will be 1500. The time required for the completion of the program will be approximately 27 to 30 months (an average of 55 hours of flight time a month). The course includes:
  • Dual/solo flight time for a total of 1000 hours
  • Instructor timeClassroom time
  • Simulator time
  • Books and uniform
  • Fuel
  • Renter's insurance
  • FAA Examiner fees
  • Medical exam fees
  • The following FAA certificates and ratings: PPL-A; IR-A; CPL-SE/ ME; CFI; CFII; 135 LOA (at 1200 hrs); ATPL
  • Airport pick-up/drop-off
  • Student orientation and assistance throughout the course
  • 500 hours of multi-engine turboprop time-building as SIC
  • Resume preparation assistance
I have no Idea if 500 hours of SIC will really do anything for me, but at least it adds to my total hrs in the air. I would have to call the school for more detail about what they pay the flight instructors while building the 1000hrs. It would be nice to be able to just instruct for a while if I could make a decent living... because ANYTHING is better than what I do now making around $15 an hour, plus I have always dreamed of becoming a pilot (fixed wing and rotary). I will be using the G.I. Bill to offset around 60% of the cost. The rest will be loans, grants or whatever else is available.

I really need some advise.

does this seem like a good program?

will I have enough flight time/experience to at least get a decent paying job as a flight instructor?

What does the job outlook look like for pilots with these qualifications.

Thanks in advance for any help...
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