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Old 06-16-2007, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by de727ups View Post
Oh...

So now people that disagree with you about ATP are "haters" rather than highly experienced professionals stating their opinion.

And you have 124 hours...

And LAFF was a PPL with probably less than that...
OK EVERYONE I HAVE 124HRS!!!! Well after my flight last night I got a few more than that...... NOW THAT THAT'S OUT THE WAY...........


You haven't had anything good to say about the school!!!! So It is what it is, walks like a duck, quack like a duck, looks like a duck then it's a duck. If the shoe fits wear it??? I've always said it's ok you're entitled to your opinion. YOUR opinion is very strong, you appear to not be able to reason about ATP. You're set on it and there's no changing that, no matter how many of their grad the airlines hire?
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Old 06-16-2007, 01:31 PM
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"you appear to not be able to reason about ATP"

I reason just fine. I have the background and experience to understand how things work in the overall scheme of things.

Yeah, ATP guys get hired. So do a lot of other guys. It ain't no thing in this day and age. And I really do think the bar has been lowered too far with how low the experience levels with new hire regional F/O's has gone. Anyhow, gotta keep those seats filled one way or another.

Glad it will never be my problem...
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Old 06-16-2007, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by de727ups View Post
"you appear to not be able to reason about ATP"

I reason just fine. I have the background and experience to understand how things work in the overall scheme of things.

Yeah, ATP guys get hired. So do a lot of other guys. It ain't no thing in this day and age. And I really do think the bar has been lowered too far with how low the experience levels with new hire regional F/O's has gone. Anyhow, gotta keep those seats filled one way or another.

Glad it will never be my problem...
Ok we'll never agree on this issue. With your 20,000hrs you do trump my 124 so I guess you win. ATP sucks their grads are worthless POS and they can only pass checkrides. They don't have the exprience so don't give them the opportunity to gain it. They went to a school for 90days and have more ME hours than any FBO grad. Even though they have the same amount of hours the guy who went to the FBO is a a better pilot because it took him 3years to get them. EVERYONE ATP sucks their CFIs is fresh out of school and don't know anything. OVERALL don't go there!

There you go sir you WIN!!!
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Old 06-16-2007, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by AlaskaOps View Post
Dude...been in the industry 9 years. I have been dealing with *********s pilots (if you are one) like you since high school. But what I hate is you people who have to hide behind the computer . You have to act like a 20 year old punk and and bash someone instead of giving me the info I asked for , which you apparently don't even know. Maybe sometime in the future when you have matured and you have hair in places men do, then you will be able to actually say "Hey buddy, check your spelling and here is what I know about ATP"

That is what this website is for last I checked! But if you want to continue giving people crap on your downtime like a frat boy, I'm not going to stop you.
Actually, I did answer your question. You were just too busy getting your panties in a wad to get the point.

One of your original questions was something along the lines of "What is ATP looking for in my resumé?" The message you were supposed to take away from my comment is that employers want your resumé to be free of both spelling and grammatical errors. After all, if you can't be bothered to differentiate between "accept" and "except," which are two completely different words, who's to say you'll take the time to understand the difference between "Cross at 12,000 feet" and "EXPECT to cross at 12,000 feet"?

Furthermore, I don't hide behind the computer. I'm forced to make my point to you via the internet because it's the only medium available to me. If I find such as egregious error as the one you made when I'm standing next to the person who made the error, I'll tell them. This trait is what led many people to ask me to proofread their papers in both high school and college.

Finally, for somebody who professes to have been dealing with people "like me" for so long, you sure do get upset about the small stuff.

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Old 06-16-2007, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by keiundraj View Post
Ok we'll never agree on this issue. With your 20,000hrs you do trump my 124 so I guess you win. ATP sucks their grads are worthless POS and they can only pass checkrides. They don't have the exprience so don't give them the opportunity to gain it. They went to a school for 90days and have more ME hours than any FBO grad. Even though they have the same amount of hours the guy who went to the FBO is a a better pilot because it took him 3years to get them. EVERYONE ATP sucks their CFIs is fresh out of school and don't know anything. OVERALL don't go there!

There you go sir you WIN!!!
Well, that's a ringing endorsement of the school.
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Maybe he was looking to circumvent the application process...
I certainly can't blame him for that.
I'd sure like to be excepted from Cathay Pacific's interview and just go right into line ops.
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Old 06-17-2007, 12:36 AM
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"Ok we'll never agree on this issue"

You got that right.

"your 20,000hrs you do trump my 124"

I don't think I have 20,000 hours. I quit keeping a logbook once I hit the right seat at UPS and typically fly no more than 150 hours a year, as I'm quite lazy. I'm probably around 8 or 9K, though.

The rest of your rant doesn't warrant a reply...
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Trust me, I used to feel the same way. I used to think it was complete BS to have to get 1000 TT and then find some way to get the magic 100 ME PIC. Now, I'm okay with it. You know why? Because the airlines aren't going anywhere. They aren't going to pack up and leave tomorrow. I don't have to be a captain in less than 3 years. And all the time I get before then is more experience to either enjoy, learn from, or both. You ask why we can't seem to accept the 90 day program. I suggest you ask why there is something wrong with earning your wings with time and experience.
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Originally Posted by keiundraj View Post
Ok we'll never agree on this issue. With your 20,000hrs you do trump my 124 so I guess you win. ATP sucks their grads are worthless POS and they can only pass checkrides. They don't have the exprience so don't give them the opportunity to gain it. They went to a school for 90days and have more ME hours than any FBO grad. Even though they have the same amount of hours the guy who went to the FBO is a a better pilot because it took him 3years to get them. EVERYONE ATP sucks their CFIs is fresh out of school and don't know anything. OVERALL don't go there!

There you go sir you WIN!!!
Wow dude, you gotta ease up. It doesn't matter what people say about ATP, they are making more money than you can imagine, and they always will. Don't worry, they're not going anywhere anytime soon!!
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Old 06-18-2007, 01:51 PM
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Wow dude, you gotta ease up. It doesn't matter what people say about ATP, they are making more money than you can imagine, and they always will. Don't worry, they're not going anywhere anytime soon!!
It's obvious ATP isn't going anywhere, that's why I think people just need to accept it. They just bought 20 Diamond Jets their students can do their cross countries in. You're right they aren't going anywhere. It's just ridiculous how much people despise the school! I'm not sure what's their beef, I think it's just they're mad, it took them 1-5years and not 90days?
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