keiundraj

The Sims at ATP are Cost Free, anytime there isn't anyone in there a student can go turn it on and FLY. There's a lot of time I took advantage of this... Ten times IMO better than chair flying. Because you can crash and Redscreen the Sim without your instructor catching it for you. This helped me learn because I realized what I was doing wrong and made Damn sure I didn't do it the next time. In your Opinion it takes time, for stuff like approaches and stuff for me it takes repetition, you've stated in your earlier posts that everyone learn differently. I can't drill things in my head. I look over it once one day and again maybe 3days later and I got it. My style of learning, I've said SEVERAL times ATP isn't for everyone but suggesting it isn't a good school I incorrect. It's a good school for those who can learn quickly. Fortunately I'm one of those people, unfortunately my past 2 roommates weren't.

keiundraj

Trust me it's not going through the Motions! My oral today was 2hrs done by a FAA examiner who do exams at 141 schools also. I don't think he had any mercy on me because I got my signoff in 28days and others he examine got theirs in 140days?? I got ALMOST every question he asked me right. Not because I remembered it but because I knew it. I'd done it and I've read it over and over again for 280hours. It's not ROTE it's UNDERSTANDING, APPLICATION and CORRELATION!

coldpilot

I'm skeptical of that right there.

keiundraj

It's ok to be Skeptical! Just know it's true.....

N6724G

I dont just want to be a CFI to build hours. I want to be a competant teacher. All my flight instructors in the past have been professional CFI's 60 year old men that have been flying for 40 plus years. They have a lot of knowledge and enjoy what they do. I dont feel Flight Instructing is about building hours. I think it should be about sharing your trade and love of aviation with others.

I work with a youth aviation orgianization and my goal is to get these kids flying. And to make them competant pilots.

de727ups

"don't listen to this MESS on this Forum!"

If that's what you think of this place, feel free to not post here.

N6724G. ATP will not make you a great CFI. No place can. I actually recommend ATP for the CFI's as they do a lot of them and know how to get people through it. But, you need to have your act together before you go and have a good background before you get there.

You can't really be "taught" how to be a good CFI. I think all the CFI schools put out a minimum standards product (except for maybe FSA). That's no big deal as long as you don't turn around and jump into teaching guys who are gonna be airline pilots in six months. But, if you get the certificate, and kinda ease into instructing, especially with some high time mentors to help you, you'll be fine.

The only way to be a great CFI is to do a lot of it and gain experience.

You were lucky to learn, so far, from high time CFI's. You got that going for ya. What youth aviation stuff are you doin?

keiundraj

I'm happy de727ups, Atleast you said something good, or Something not bad about ATP!!!! Just made my day! Although teaching Airline pilots in Six Months IMO makes you a better instructor?


I know most of you won't agree with that last statement but again It's ok

lipe0201

Keiundraj, I was wondering if you have any idea of how many hours ATP CFI's are getting a month? Also if you do the CFI progam what are the chances of getting hired by ATP? Just wondering, thinking of doing the program at the end of the summer. Any info would be great.

Low & Slow

No but they can judge a school based on the impression their students make on the general public.

If I were managing ATP I would pay you to stay away from Internet pilot forums. Seriously, after reading some of your posts you're fueling the impression that many people have that ATP will train anyone with a checkbook - brain optional.

That IS callous, but please ask yourself what you have to prove on an anonymous forum, and why you're posting here. You've squandered any chance of getting genuine and thoughtful advice from those who are working in the airline industry. Why are you here?

de727ups

"No but they can judge a school based on the impression their students make on the general public. If I were managing ATP I would pay you to stay away from Internet pilot forums"

Wow....I was just thinkin' the same thing. The stuff a person says here can be seen for years with the search function. I was thinking this guy does his beloved cause more harm than good.