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Old 02-24-2008 | 05:27 PM
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This is a general question but lets take this approach plate for example because it is a good example:
http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0802/00954LBC19.PDF
Generally if I fly this approach, I like to file the JVL because it is the IAF for this LOC BC procedure. While 99% of the time I will get radar vectors for any approach, I always like to know what I would do in the event of a complete comm failure.
Lets say JVL was not apart of this procedure and the only IAF was TODDY INT. While planning, my last enroute fix would be the RFD VOR (not located at the field) and I am arriving from the EAST. Lets say i am IMC and its IMC to mins. I arrive at RFD and my comms are not working. I hold until my ETA then do I track R-055 to toddy, track outbound 185, PT then track inbound? Or do I fly from RFD R- 085 to intercept/POPEE, track outbound 185, PT, then track inbound?
Again, I know that 99% of the time I will get radar vectors for anything but generally I like to do published approaches just for the practice.
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Old 02-24-2008 | 06:26 PM
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You would track the RFD 055 radial outbound to TODDY, then proceed outbound on the procedure turn.

Instead of filing to RFD I would put TODDY as the last fix on the route of flight. You can hold at TODDY using the localizer and DME or GPS if you have it. Turns would be made to the left to keep you in the protected airspace provided by the procedure turn.
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Old 02-24-2008 | 07:52 PM
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How would I navigate to toddy enroute though? IE Im on a victor airway, how would I get there? This is assuming all conventional navigation?
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Old 02-24-2008 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by snippercr
How would I navigate to toddy enroute though? IE Im on a victor airway, how would I get there? This is assuming all conventional navigation?
file whatever gets you to the RFD VOR and then TODDY the published feeder route gets you there. Or direct TODDY if you are so inclined.
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Old 02-24-2008 | 08:41 PM
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I know you said disregard Janesville VOR for the question, but chances are that this scenario can be avoided by using the Janesville IAF. Probably at least part of why it is there. As for direct, you can certainly do direct to TODDY as long as you have a dual VOR system or don't mind switching back and forth on one receiver.
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Old 02-24-2008 | 09:27 PM
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I don't think you could use r-085 because its not labeled as a feeder route and it does not have a MEA or distance info....

correct me if I'm wrong on that...
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