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Old 04-01-2008 | 07:45 AM
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How bad are these on the record? How long do they stay on your record?
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Old 04-01-2008 | 08:04 AM
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I know a few people with them. Right now, not much of a problem (learning experience, etc) as hiring slows, it could become a bit more limiting.
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Old 04-01-2008 | 01:29 PM
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Have had a 709 ride and it hasn't been a problem at all.....just be honest and explain what you have done to become a better pilot.
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Old 04-01-2008 | 04:54 PM
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what's a 709?
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Old 04-01-2008 | 06:20 PM
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Where the FAA comes by to check in on you. Often happens after you have an incident. In the case of a CFI, a 709 ride can come after a student of yours screws up. One of my former co-workers had a 709 after a CFI applicant of hers landed gear up. In that case, they are looking to rule out your teaching as a cause in the accident/incident.

By the way, she did fine and now works for the FAA. 709 rides can be recovered from, especially if the reason for the ride is a less severe situation.
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Old 04-01-2008 | 07:14 PM
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Good info. Shows that the CFI can untimately be found responsible no matter what the circumstances are.
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Old 04-01-2008 | 07:36 PM
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thanks king
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Old 04-01-2008 | 09:36 PM
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Good info. Shows that the CFI can untimately be found responsible no matter what the circumstances are.
Yup, and right there is why I get beyond mad when former members like LAfrequentflyer would bring up that most CFIs milk extra hours out of a student. Every time I signed my name to their logbook my career was on the line. I never took signoffs lightly for that reason.
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Old 04-02-2008 | 07:04 AM
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the reason for mine is due to a left main gear collapse...it was found to be mechanical but according to the FAA they just want to cover most bases...thing is i have a conditional offer from AE to start in a month...my concern is whether or not the709 goes on my file...it should not bc it is not a violation or corrective action but then again who knows...
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Old 04-02-2008 | 07:53 AM
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I think the 709 is called something else nowdays, but I think it does go in your record.

Assuming you pass, it should not hurt as much as a violation or checkride failure...if you had really done something wrong, they would have violated you.

There are two kinds...formally it's intended to be a verification of pilot skills in a case where there is a possibility of doubt. If you pass, you should be fine.

Informally, the 709 can be punitive if you PO your FSDO. There would have to be some previous history for this to be the case, personality conflict, or bad reputation on the field. You would know in advance if this was the case, and of course you would not pass a punitive 709.
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