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Old 04-21-2009 | 06:45 PM
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I had a student who was working on the instrument with me...they said they had not flown night in over a year...I said okay fine, tonight's lesson will be a review of basic manuvers at night...stalls, slow flight, steep turns, and then we'll work on some instrument stuff...the student has a fit and refuses to fly because "doing stalls at night is dangerous". I've been instructing for about 2.5 years and have always done stalls at night with students...

I will continue to teach stalls at night...

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Old 04-21-2009 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by withthatsaid182
Long story short...

I had a student who was working on the instrument with me...they said they had not flown night in over a year...I said okay fine, tonight's lesson will be a review of basic manuvers at night...stalls, slow flight, steep turns, and then we'll work on some instrument stuff...the student has a fit and refuses to fly because "doing stalls at night is dangerous". I've been instructing for about 2.5 years and have always done stalls at night with students...

I will continue to teach stalls at night...

What is your opinion?
I've done stalls at night - but I don't think I was taught them during my training. I'll be interested to see what the experienced CFIs have to say about this subject.

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Old 04-21-2009 | 06:58 PM
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I've been instructing at night for the most part for about a year and a half at a big flight school. Long story short, we do them all the time.
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Old 04-21-2009 | 07:35 PM
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Actually, at my flight school, we had solo lesson plans that included stalls at night. Yeah, its a different situation, but it's just a stall.

What made me very uncomfortable was doing stalls under the hood during instrument training. Had a student almost flip it, then kick it so hard he almost flipped it the other way.
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Old 04-21-2009 | 07:54 PM
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Ive flown at 2 flight schools- one in the northeast and another in the southeast, It was requirement for both to complete the unit lessons of stalls, BAI, etc at night. Ive also done them on my night currency check. Sounds to me the student is not confident about his flying skills.
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Old 04-21-2009 | 08:55 PM
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We also did stalls at night, even on the night solos. I dont know what that kid was afraid of.
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Old 04-21-2009 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by withthatsaid182
Long story short...

I had a student who was working on the instrument with me...they said they had not flown night in over a year...I said okay fine, tonight's lesson will be a review of basic manuvers at night...stalls, slow flight, steep turns, and then we'll work on some instrument stuff...the student has a fit and refuses to fly because "doing stalls at night is dangerous". I've been instructing for about 2.5 years and have always done stalls at night with students...

I will continue to teach stalls at night...

What is your opinion?
Remind the student that the aircraft's critical angle of attack do not change based on time of day so its a non issue I wonder what would happen if I asked your student to go up with me during the night in a Citabria to do some spins, immelman and inside loops and such either way sounds like a confidence issue with that said you would be amazed at how many people who have never had any spin training
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Old 04-21-2009 | 09:01 PM
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I know the Cessna course requirements have you do stalls at night. I don't know if the student's hesitance has anything to do with his confidence in flying skills, it could just be that he was taught that stalls are dangerous at night and probably has more to do with his prior instructor.
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Old 04-21-2009 | 09:04 PM
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I would not do them in locations or conditions where the horizon was not easily discernible in every direction (desert, open water, etc). If you spin and tumble the gyros you want good visual references.
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Old 04-21-2009 | 09:29 PM
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We should only practice stalls during the day because they only occur during daylight hours, sometimes during civil twilight. Stalls never happen at night.

Yeah, right.
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