night currency with instrument student
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night currency with instrument student
I have my first lesson ever as an instructor this evening and I am not night current. The student is an instrument student, so is this legal, since they can log PIC? I seem to remember my instructors telling me that I was PIC for the flight after I got my private. Is this true or is the instructor still ACTING as PIC?
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Strange as it may seem, when the flight is for instruction, neither the student nor the instructor needs to be current for landings under 61.57(a) and (b). It doesn't matter who is acting as PIC (for legality of flight it never matters who can log PIC).
Here are the two FAA Legal opinions that deal with it:
Kortokrax
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...kraxinterp.doc
Olshock (student pilots)
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...kraxinterp.doc
Here are the two FAA Legal opinions that deal with it:
Kortokrax
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...kraxinterp.doc
Olshock (student pilots)
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...kraxinterp.doc
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Of course, if you get into an landing incident, your decision as an instructor to go out and do night landings with a student after having not flown at night for 10 years may come into question.
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C'mon man, don't even pretend like this is just a legality question.
YOU ARE A FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR NOW!
YOU are the one there making the decisions, you're no longer flying under the umbrella of someone else's CFI. Do you really want to be in charge of this flight with it in the back of your head that you havent done a night landing in 4 months? This, as well as all the decisions on this flight, will be YOUR decision.
The quicker you realize that theres a huge difference between current and proficient, the better off you and your students are going to be.
Taking risks on your first dual given...awesome.
YOU ARE A FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR NOW!
YOU are the one there making the decisions, you're no longer flying under the umbrella of someone else's CFI. Do you really want to be in charge of this flight with it in the back of your head that you havent done a night landing in 4 months? This, as well as all the decisions on this flight, will be YOUR decision.
The quicker you realize that theres a huge difference between current and proficient, the better off you and your students are going to be.
Taking risks on your first dual given...awesome.
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Strange as it may seem, when the flight is for instruction, neither the student nor the instructor needs to be current for landings under 61.57(a) and (b). It doesn't matter who is acting as PIC (for legality of flight it never matters who can log PIC).
Here are the two FAA Legal opinions that deal with it:
Kortokrax
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...kraxinterp.doc
Olshock (student pilots)
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...kraxinterp.doc
Here are the two FAA Legal opinions that deal with it:
Kortokrax
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...kraxinterp.doc
Olshock (student pilots)
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...kraxinterp.doc
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C'mon man, don't even pretend like this is just a legality question.
YOU ARE A FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR NOW!
YOU are the one there making the decisions, you're no longer flying under the umbrella of someone else's CFI. Do you really want to be in charge of this flight with it in the back of your head that you havent done a night landing in 4 months? This, as well as all the decisions on this flight, will be YOUR decision.
The quicker you realize that theres a huge difference between current and proficient, the better off you and your students are going to be.
Taking risks on your first dual given...awesome.
YOU ARE A FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR NOW!
YOU are the one there making the decisions, you're no longer flying under the umbrella of someone else's CFI. Do you really want to be in charge of this flight with it in the back of your head that you havent done a night landing in 4 months? This, as well as all the decisions on this flight, will be YOUR decision.
The quicker you realize that theres a huge difference between current and proficient, the better off you and your students are going to be.
Taking risks on your first dual given...awesome.
Thanks for your input, ma'am
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