Search
Notices
Flight Schools and Training Ratings, building hours, airmanship, CFI topics

How long to build hours..

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-27-2006, 05:11 PM
  #71  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Apr 2006
Posts: 38
Default

Originally Posted by rickair7777
I have trained and worked at both 141 and 61 schools. Generally, the 141 schools will save you flight time, but not money. They will charge more for their "higher quality" 141 training. So you spend the same or more money, get the same ratings, but less total time...hmmmm. Remember, total time is the main measure of your career progression at the entry level. I could be wrong, but it seems like more is better...
Phoenix East aviation told me that airlines like to see part 141 training on your record.
av8r88 is offline  
Old 06-27-2006, 06:34 PM
  #72  
Are we there yet??!!
 
Joined APC: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,010
Default

Flying ninja,

Did you do any research on the CAPT program before you plunked down the cash? by that I mean, this board or Flight Info
Thedude is offline  
Old 06-28-2006, 09:42 AM
  #73  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Pilotpip's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2005
Position: Retired
Posts: 2,934
Default

Originally Posted by av8r88
Phoenix East aviation told me that airlines like to see part 141 training on your record.
Phoenix East aviation wants your money. They'll tell you exactly what you want to hear.

We'll do training under part 141 in most cases, but if the student's time doesn't allow for two to three lessons per week, or can't make a groundschool we have no problem with going the part 61 route. The only difference between our 141 program and doing the stuff 61 at our flight school is a couple hours in the frasca, which will save the student a bit of money. On this end, it comes down to the quality of the instructor, and the quality of the course. There are lots of schools out there that just want your money. Part 141 or 61, stay away from these and find a quality instructor and quality program.

Also, whoever made the comment about it not being about the flight school, rather the student hit the nail on the head. If the student studies, "chair flies" and does all the good things at home to better prepare for a lesson they will complete any course much faster than somebody that just shows up and flies.
Pilotpip is offline  
Old 06-28-2006, 10:05 AM
  #74  
Prime Minister/Moderator
 
rickair7777's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,275
Default

Originally Posted by av8r88
Phoenix East aviation told me that airlines like to see part 141 training on your record.

Airlines actually like to see a degree, a commercial pilot's license (AMEL), a first class medical, 1000+ TT, and 100+ ME.

They will never know or care if your training was 141 or 61.

But that won't stop an unethical flight school (they are legion) from trying to sell you a program where you fly fewer hours. CFI's are dirt cheap...a school's only REAL expense is Hobbs time.
rickair7777 is offline  
Old 08-24-2006, 06:59 PM
  #75  
Gets EVERY weekend off
 
flynavyj's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: SIC
Posts: 1,367
Default

work as a CFI at a major university, had some months that are busy, some that aren't. End reuslt is that i still only had about 35 hrs a month on average. started with 330 hrs in january, currently have about 630 or so. woulda probably had 1000 by years end, but, was lucky enough to get hired on instead.

While 38 hrs a month doesn't seem like a lot, i was truely busy as hell. If you fly 50 hrs a month, you'll be a very busy man, also remember you're limited to an 8 hr duty day as a CFI, and if you manage to fulfil that duty day, you will litterally want to kill yourself.

One more note, supposedly CFI work is twice as stresful as the average american job, which compounds the time you're at work. a 8 hr flying day, is a 16 hr office day...you'll be dead, you've been warned, lol.
flynavyj is offline  
Old 08-25-2006, 07:54 AM
  #76  
Gets Weekends Off
 
DON*T HATE ERAU's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Posts: 170
Default

Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
CFI's are dirt cheap...a school's only REAL expense is Hobbs time.

Are you calling cheap! I resent that ... My time is very valuable specially for my school cause they get to pocket out of 45.50 for an hour of my time I only see $18. That sucks.... where is that money going towards?
DON*T HATE ERAU is offline  
Old 08-25-2006, 11:09 AM
  #77  
On Reserve
 
Joshrk22's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: Training
Posts: 22
Default

Join the CAP. I'm doing my PPL right now and it costs me about $53 an hour. I also have 6 free flights from Orientation Flights that I can use each year. In the end, I'm looking at spending about $1600. At 200 hours you can become a Mission Pilot and Cadet Orientation Pilot, and there's free flight time right there. I will probably end up doing my PPL and IR through CAP and then going to the local FBO for my Comm.
Joshrk22 is offline  
Old 08-25-2006, 01:35 PM
  #78  
Gets Weekends Off
 
CRJ-200's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2006
Posts: 249
Default

Originally Posted by Browntail View Post
Once you've been in it as long as I have, you will see that it just becomes a job. I could care less if I fly or not, just keep giving me my check! That's all that matters.
I can't imagine getting to that point. A lot of pilots I've talked to say flying is a rush every time they do it...
CRJ-200 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
captain_drew
Flight Schools and Training
38
12-05-2012 08:29 AM
duvie
Regional
31
08-03-2009 09:00 AM
Schnides
Hiring News
24
09-06-2006 06:53 PM
Freight Dog
Cargo
2
07-04-2006 05:58 PM
UNDGUY
Hiring News
24
05-01-2006 10:57 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices