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Old 06-27-2006 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I have trained and worked at both 141 and 61 schools. Generally, the 141 schools will save you flight time, but not money. They will charge more for their "higher quality" 141 training. So you spend the same or more money, get the same ratings, but less total time...hmmmm. Remember, total time is the main measure of your career progression at the entry level. I could be wrong, but it seems like more is better...
Phoenix East aviation told me that airlines like to see part 141 training on your record.
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Old 06-27-2006 | 06:34 PM
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Flying ninja,

Did you do any research on the CAPT program before you plunked down the cash? by that I mean, this board or Flight Info
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Old 06-28-2006 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by av8r88
Phoenix East aviation told me that airlines like to see part 141 training on your record.
Phoenix East aviation wants your money. They'll tell you exactly what you want to hear.

We'll do training under part 141 in most cases, but if the student's time doesn't allow for two to three lessons per week, or can't make a groundschool we have no problem with going the part 61 route. The only difference between our 141 program and doing the stuff 61 at our flight school is a couple hours in the frasca, which will save the student a bit of money. On this end, it comes down to the quality of the instructor, and the quality of the course. There are lots of schools out there that just want your money. Part 141 or 61, stay away from these and find a quality instructor and quality program.

Also, whoever made the comment about it not being about the flight school, rather the student hit the nail on the head. If the student studies, "chair flies" and does all the good things at home to better prepare for a lesson they will complete any course much faster than somebody that just shows up and flies.
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Old 06-28-2006 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by av8r88
Phoenix East aviation told me that airlines like to see part 141 training on your record.

Airlines actually like to see a degree, a commercial pilot's license (AMEL), a first class medical, 1000+ TT, and 100+ ME.

They will never know or care if your training was 141 or 61.

But that won't stop an unethical flight school (they are legion) from trying to sell you a program where you fly fewer hours. CFI's are dirt cheap...a school's only REAL expense is Hobbs time.
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Old 08-24-2006 | 06:59 PM
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work as a CFI at a major university, had some months that are busy, some that aren't. End reuslt is that i still only had about 35 hrs a month on average. started with 330 hrs in january, currently have about 630 or so. woulda probably had 1000 by years end, but, was lucky enough to get hired on instead.

While 38 hrs a month doesn't seem like a lot, i was truely busy as hell. If you fly 50 hrs a month, you'll be a very busy man, also remember you're limited to an 8 hr duty day as a CFI, and if you manage to fulfil that duty day, you will litterally want to kill yourself.

One more note, supposedly CFI work is twice as stresful as the average american job, which compounds the time you're at work. a 8 hr flying day, is a 16 hr office day...you'll be dead, you've been warned, lol.
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Old 08-25-2006 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
CFI's are dirt cheap...a school's only REAL expense is Hobbs time.

Are you calling cheap! I resent that ... My time is very valuable specially for my school cause they get to pocket out of 45.50 for an hour of my time I only see $18. That sucks.... where is that money going towards?
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Old 08-25-2006 | 11:09 AM
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Join the CAP. I'm doing my PPL right now and it costs me about $53 an hour. I also have 6 free flights from Orientation Flights that I can use each year. In the end, I'm looking at spending about $1600. At 200 hours you can become a Mission Pilot and Cadet Orientation Pilot, and there's free flight time right there. I will probably end up doing my PPL and IR through CAP and then going to the local FBO for my Comm.
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Old 08-25-2006 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Browntail
Once you've been in it as long as I have, you will see that it just becomes a job. I could care less if I fly or not, just keep giving me my check! That's all that matters.
I can't imagine getting to that point. A lot of pilots I've talked to say flying is a rush every time they do it...
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