Planespotta

PASSEDDDD!!!

Too pumped to write any more...stand by for a gouge!

Grumble

You've got to be kidding me. I hope this is flame bait. There are an infinate number of reasons you land with the props full forward. Not making the passengers nervous is absolutely retarded, and if you can't make a decent landing with them full forward there are bigger issues to address.

By the way... try pulling that in a turbo prop and see how ugly it gets.


Planespotta, nice work.

Ewfflyer

On Topic: Planespotta, congrats, now are you going to show up early this august to teach at PU, or you going to try LAF-Av?

Off Topic:

When I flew 135 freight, I never put the props up unless I was "inclined" that a situation was leaning towards a missed/go-around, or I waited until I was pulling the power all the way back. It works, it's nice, not much else to say about it.(I even left the mixtures back too!) Our Check-Airmen even encouraged it(one of the few things I actually agreed with)

Yes in the PT6's I fly, it's very easy as we leave the TBM's at full rpm(2000rpm), and the Meridians there isn't even a lever. I've flown Be20's, and PA31T's and yes I put the props up on short final as to not damage anything going into beta on the ground.

It comes down to knowing your aircraft, having the skills and technique to improve not only how you land, but how you get there also!

ryan1234

No flamebait here... guess all the check airmen and instructors in the part 135 world weren't aware of the infinite reasons... I'll make sure to tell them how retarded it is.

If you can't make a successful go-around because of extra motion of putting the props forward - there are bigger issues to address.

Did you take your CFI ride in a turbo-prop? I was speaking specifically of recips.

That thing with the mixtures must be flamebait

Yes we've done that too - but I agree with you.. usually I throw the props up on very, very short final.

Yeah, the turbo-props are a bit of a different animal when it comes to that.

Ewfflyer

It was and it wasn't. Basically what I like to point out is there are 100 ways to a single task, about 90 of them can be considered appropriate/right/acceptable, and a few of them just wrong. One thing can be right during training, but not necessarily needed in "real world" flying, like shoving the prop lever up in the pattern, etc..etc...

ryan1234

You're absolutely right... as a matter of fact.. it's not uncommon for some 1900 drivers to land without the props full forward - something about keeping them from going to ground idle independently.