Ground Instructor Simulator Question
10-29-2010 | 07:58 AM
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http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...010/Gatlin.pdf
So there we have it. I've also talked to the HNL FSDO, their opinion is that if you are authorized by the Chief Flight Instructor you can in fact conduct sim training under 61 & 141, just like 135 & 121 ops.
So there we have it. I've also talked to the HNL FSDO, their opinion is that if you are authorized by the Chief Flight Instructor you can in fact conduct sim training under 61 & 141, just like 135 & 121 ops.
10-29-2010 | 01:39 PM
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This opinion itself is reasonable, but their logic in arriving there looks weak. It's basically "This is the way I want it to be, it doesn't matter what the regs say". I'm guessing they won't try to go back and violate anybody who has done this in the past.
10-29-2010 | 03:42 PM
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We about beat this to death but I'd say the Chief Counsel's letter is straight forward:
1. Here is a list of what GIs can do.
2. Instructing in a sim is not on the list.
3. Therefore, a GI can not instruct in a sim.
That Philosophy of Logic class finally paid off.
1. Here is a list of what GIs can do.
2. Instructing in a sim is not on the list.
3. Therefore, a GI can not instruct in a sim.
That Philosophy of Logic class finally paid off.
10-29-2010 | 06:10 PM
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A pilots license is not required to posses a GI certificate. Do you really think that someone without a pilots license is qualified to teach someone to fly. I don't care if it's a FTD or a TURD. 'm not buying it. A ground instructor is just that....a ground instructor. They can provide the required training to be signed off for taking a written test. Thats it.
10-30-2010 | 04:05 AM
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OK, looks like the FAA changed (or clarified) their position last month.
It was always a bit sketchy but IMO you could make a clear legal trail through the regs to reach the conclusion that it was authorized. That was probably never intended by the FAA, but probably just happened that way.
It was always a bit sketchy but IMO you could make a clear legal trail through the regs to reach the conclusion that it was authorized. That was probably never intended by the FAA, but probably just happened that way.
Just a sampling of those that have had support for varying views but have finally been "clarified" by FAR changes, Chief Counsel interpretations or both in recent years:
- Ground instructor can't give loggable flight training in a device.
- CFI-I with no aircraft instructor rating can't teach in any aircraft.
- CFI-A without an Instrument-Airplane rating cannot provide instrument training beyond the "flight solely by reference to instruments" training for the private certificate.
- Neither CFI nor trainee is a passenger, no neither needs to be landing-current.
- CFI ride does not reset the FR clock.
- CFIs may log trainee instrument approaches that occur in actual
Some parts of the FAA website are currently down but if you're interested, putting CFI or flight instructor in the search box at http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...terpretations/ should help you find all of them
10-30-2010 | 01:39 PM
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Kind of stupid, but if you pass the ride just ask for a FR endorsement!
Maybe not such a great idea...there's a difference between watchning and doing...might be a big difference for some people.
10-30-2010 | 01:41 PM
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A pilots license is not required to posses a GI certificate. Do you really think that someone without a pilots license is qualified to teach someone to fly. I don't care if it's a FTD or a TURD. 'm not buying it. A ground instructor is just that....a ground instructor. They can provide the required training to be signed off for taking a written test. Thats it.
10-31-2010 | 06:05 AM
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I'll let out some of the cynic I try to keep in check and say that it does not surprise me. I'm sure having a GI do that training is somehow cheaper than using a CFI. Just to save a buck.
10-31-2010 | 09:16 AM
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http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/.../Grayson-2.pdf
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