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Old 08-03-2011, 02:58 PM
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Does anyone know anything about flght safety sic positions? What exactly does the job consist of and what kind of pay can be expected? Do you travel or just work at one location?
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This is based on my experience doing an initial at FSI and having one of their SICs for my whole training footprint.....SICs are there to simply play the SIC role when FSI has a client going through a type training and there are an odd number of people in the training class or in my case when you're the only one. They are there to perform the necessary duties running checklists, slinging gear, etc while you learn to fly the plane and complete the training program. One thing that is nice is that flying the sim is all the SICs usually do. They know the instructors and their training profiles and can be a great help when bells and whistles start going off.

Based on chatting with mine, he indicated that he stayed on one fleet type at one location and they had enough work for him to be full-time. That's not to say they may send you TDY at another training facility. He was young 20's and with about 700TT. They certainly do get to meet a lot of different people and network which should work in their favor in finding future work.

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I was an SIC at flightsafety wilmington DE since i was a junior in college. I worked there and instructed on the side to continue to build time. You will be placed in one program initially, and if needed in the future they might put you in a second program. You will go through the same initial training for the A/C that a paying client would get, except you wont get a type at the end of training, that will come later. They will keep you busy doing sim work but if it ever drops off you can do other admin duties around the center, but should go instruct or fly to build time. Over time you will meet ALOT of clients and if you hang in there long enough you will get a job. It normally takes about a year and a half or 2 years from what i have seen in many copilots, depending on the current economic state. I started in the Hawker program and got a job with a large part 91 corporation flying a hawker and eventually moved in to the Gulfstream 5 that they had also. I got my job initially with 1100 total flying hours, 70 multi, but i had 2000 hours of sim jet time and knew the checklist and abnormal procedures better than most. you will get to that point to after 2000 hours in the box! have fun, let me know if you have any questions.
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Old 08-04-2011, 09:50 AM
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My experience echos fjetter's post.
I went through initial with two of the SIC'ers at SimuFlite.
They were local to the Dallas facility.
At least this first time through, they also attended the oral with the guy whom they were flying with and swapped seats too in the simulator.

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So is this a type of job you would leave a regional for?
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No. It's sim time. Nothing more. And making contacts takes a long time.

I did the SimuFlite version in college. Met several people, made some contacts, got a few trips out of it. It's good experience and an easy way to get into a turbine aircraft and get some varied experience.

Not sure how FSI does it, but at SimuFlite you got the 8410 straight out of initial depending on your instructor and a PIC type after 80 sim sessions.
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So is this a type of job you would leave a regional for?
Probably not unless it offers other benefits that are hard to quantify in the QOL realm. Otherwise you are probably better off continuing to fly the line at the regional unless FSI offers you an instructor position which is an entirely different scenario.
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DSflyer05 & fjetter:

How did you guys get into the SIC program @ FSI? Is this the same FSI in Vero Beach, FL? Or did you complete your training, then attended the SIC program at one of FSI locations?



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Originally Posted by atpwannabe View Post
DSflyer05 & fjetter:

How did you guys get into the SIC program @ FSI? Is this the same FSI in Vero Beach, FL? Or did you complete your training, then attended the SIC program at one of FSI locations?



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ATP....I wasn't a SIC there I was getting a PIC type and had a FSI SIC for the sim portion of training because I was the only one in the class. It's my understanding is that each FSI location is responsible for hiring candidates. When I did my training at the Wilmington FSI my SIC was a local guy that had recently graduated ERAU. He had all of his ratings through MEI and about 700TT. My guess is that they post their vacancies on their website.
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Originally Posted by fjetter View Post
ATP....I wasn't a SIC there I was getting a PIC type and had a FSI SIC for the sim portion of training because I was the only one in the class. It's my understanding is that each FSI location is responsible for hiring candidates. When I did my training at the Wilmington FSI my SIC was a local guy that had recently graduated ERAU. He had all of his ratings through MEI and about 700TT. My guess is that they post their vacancies on their website.
You mean to tell me that I can complete the Pro Pilot program @ Ariben Aviator; instruct for 6-8 months and accumulate about 700-1200 hrs TT...with about 70-80% of that being multi and could possibly be awarded an SIC slot, then a job flying SIC? Or be awarded a "job" right from the rip and the SIC training comes after accepting the position?

Btw, if you have a link so that I could check out their SIC program that would be appreciated.





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