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Old 10-03-2006, 01:24 PM
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ok, well firstly, wuts UND? and really I want to fly for a the next at least 20 years, so yea, basically I want to go to school, and get a degree, and possible do the ATP thing, because ive heard some goods about them, im not sure about the sketchy sounding 60 adn 90 day deals, but yea, so thanx for the reply's, ur input is appreciated greatly, whats schools are good, but not to expensive for useful degrees, but close to go flight schools? Thanx
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UND is University of North Dakota. They have an aviation degree program that attracts people from all over the world. Being that we've established that you shouldn't get an aviation degree, you should look elsewhere. What state do you live in?
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You never know what might happen in 20 years. You could lose your medical. You could have an unfortunant accident wher eyou could not fly the line anymore. You just never know so its always god to prepare and have a back up plan. Thats what a degree does for you. You may be working for an airline and something happen wher eyou loose your class 1 medical well if you have a business management degree they may put you in flight ops or something
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Or, you may decide, after all your training and education, that .... you just don't like flying enough to pursue it as a career! It happens to more people than would freely admit, but unfortunately for many of them, they have no easy way out, and they plod along miserably as broke CFIs and uprooted regional FOs. With a (recent) degree in business or engineering you'd have an easy out. (A 20-year-old degree is basically obsolete without subsequent, relevant work experience, but still good enough to check "yes" on an application.)
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Or, you may decide, after all your training and education, that .... you just don't like flying enough to pursue it as a career! It happens to more people than would freely admit, but unfortunately for many of them, they have no easy way out, and they plod along miserably as broke CFIs and uprooted regional FOs. With a (recent) degree in business or engineering you'd have an easy out. (A 20-year-old degree is basically obsolete without subsequent, relevant work experience, but still good enough to check "yes" on an application.)
I dontknow about that I have been out of college for 13 years and I never used my journalism degree and I am a police officer and I bet I could get a job inthe PAO section real easy if I wanted to leave the streets.
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What's the PAO section? I'm assuming it's part of the police department. In that case you're probably right, but your history with the organization is about as much a factor as your degree. Minus a history within an organization, people with 20-yr-old business, and especially engineering degrees, without the relevant work experience aren't likely to be hired over a recent graduate.

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Originally Posted by Uncle Bose View Post
UND is University of North Dakota. They have an aviation degree program that attracts people from all over the world. Being that we've established that you shouldn't get an aviation degree, you should look elsewhere. What state do you live in?
Why should he look elsewhere when UND has 10 academic schools and nearly 200 fields of study to choose from? Not to mention one of the best flight programs in the country. You should definitely look around, but also consider UND; they have many non-aviation degrees to pick from.
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He may have a public school in his own state that also has x academic schools and nearly y fields of study to choose from, which may be of a much higher rank than 4th-tier UND. Would you really tell a Florida resident to consider paying nonresident tuition at UND over going to UF? A California resident to consider UND over UCLA? A Pennsylvania resident to consider UND over Penn State? I wouldn't...
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He may have a public school in his own state that also has x academic schools and nearly y fields of study to choose from, which may be of a much higher rank than 4th-tier UND. Would you really tell a Florida resident to consider paying nonresident tuition at UND over going to UF? A California resident to consider UND over UCLA? A Pennsylvania resident to consider UND over Penn State? I wouldn't...
Your putting words in my mouth.

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You should definitely look around, but also consider UND.
Thats not me telling him to go out of state.

A couple weeks ago UND was 3rd tier according to you and now down to 4th by your account I see...do you really know what your talking about? I'd be interested to know where you are doing your masters. Where ever it is I'm sure the ERAU degree really set you up nice for an MBA.
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