Cruz5350

You've been given correct advice, obviously it's not what you want to hear....so he has a point in saying just pencil whip your hours. In reality you're not going into this with the right attitude all you want is some cheap hours so really "dude" just write it into your log book. There is plenty of places on the .net to find a simple Cessna POH do some research rather than just asking for quick answers, it'll better help you when you need to find answers as you progress through the more complex ratings if you so choose to pursue aviation as a career.

Ewfflyer

I have to agree with JohnBurke!

Yes the "hours" matter, but people lose focus on the experience you need to gain during those hours.

I do see both sides however, so there's not any finger pointing here.

So my basic breakdown is;

1: lowest avg RPM setting per hour, so that could be slow taxi/time to runway(although least productive in experience gained)

2: pattern with full stop taxi back......some good experience hindered by taxi back

3: XC at L/D Max: slow, but most efficient cruise setting. Add a challenge of identifying checkpoints and off course deviations, amending your destination enroute, etc....

4: using #3 to get somewhere new, then practicing pattern there. Go to an airport you heard was a challenge, take the trip and make it a destination.

5: grab 2-3 friends and share the cost to go somewhere fun. They don't need to be pilot friends, take family, etc... Preferably you need to be comfortable with where you are going, and I highly recommend early in the morning or late afternoon if you have new flyers for less connective turbulence. This way you can run normal cruise settings also.

Take any of these scenarios, change your Wx mins, night flying, crosswinds, whatever you want to advance your skills. That is all I ask is you try to make the most out of each hour you are in the air

Mason32

You're essentially asking us to do a performance problem for you to determine the best altitude and power setting for longest time aloft.

That is exactly the kind if experience you get by being PIC of your aircraft.
So you are on here basically saying... I want to log as much time as possible , but I don't want to do the work to plan it properly. Exactly the type if attitude we do not need in new pilots.

Call your club your wanting to join and ask for a copy of the performance pages, since you are evaluating if their aircraft meet your needs, so you can make an informed decision to join or not.

How hard is that? Grow up.

DALFA

Thank you. This is the kind of feedback I was looking for. Not the "go figure it out yourself" or "just pencil whip" type of responses. This is a forum where people share experiences and advice, if you're too bothered to do that...just don't post and sit in your glass house.

I realize that sitting on the tarmac logging time is the cheapest way, and staying in the pattern doing full-stop taxi backs is also cheap but if you look at my original post you will see that i'm actually looking to fly places and gain new experiences from flying to different airports. Sorry if i'm trying to save a few bucks by going 70-80 over full throttle at 110. If you can't understand that, then you're the one that needs help.

UnderOveur

DALFA

It has nothing to do with being butt-hurt. It's just sad that so many have an ego the size of a blimp and instead of offering some good advice they thrive on belittling others and giving smart-ass responses. You're supposed to be a professional, act like one.

UnderOveur

DALFA

Thanks for proving my point.

JohnBurke

You're the student pilot with the avatar of a 747, who began this mess, asking ridiculous questions (there is such a thing as a stupid question) and seeking the easiest way out.

Lift a finger to help yourself. Crack a book. Read. It's an important skill, and one day you may find it benefits you in this industry.

You're got zero experience or background, yet seem to know more than everyone else. Why do you suppose that is?

Nearly all of us are flight instructors, either former, or current (many both). All of us started from zero (your present position) before getting to where we are now, and nearly all of us see the fallacy in your gotta-have-it-now mentality.

You're really going to fly off those magic 1,500 hours, building time, in the hopes that it qualifies you for a job?

N9373M

I don't think it matters. You need the hours AND the experience and the delta (pardon the pun) between hobbes and tach is probably not that much. If you're worried about saving $$ and not the flying part, you might miss something important.

Best of luck.