Fast track to jets???
08-12-2013, 03:02 PM
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I wouldn't say I was fast tracked (we stood down for 2 months before Desert Storm b/c no one thought we were going to go).
86 Tweet hours
147 T-38/AT-38
and ~7 months at my first duty station/180 hours in the F-15 (so ~410 TT) and I was flying my first combat sortie Jan 1991.
86 Tweet hours
147 T-38/AT-38
and ~7 months at my first duty station/180 hours in the F-15 (so ~410 TT) and I was flying my first combat sortie Jan 1991.
08-12-2013, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
Might happen in the Army help world but not in Naval Aviation tactical aircraft. Add in about another 100 or so at least and IF they were fast tracked (called Pri-A, which means graduating their fleet aircraft's training program and meeting the boat on deployment) MIGHT you be in action right out of the cage.
BDGRJMN - can you give us an idea of what newly winged pilots coming to the Strike/Fighter pipeline might be showing up with and what the average numbers of hours are now in the syllabus?
FlyBoyd - any input on total hours at winging now with the parred down (?) T-45 TST
As a point of comparison, I graduated with about 260 hrs.
Cutting out the T-2C phase was suppose to cutting the hours and time to train.
BDGRJMN - can you give us an idea of what newly winged pilots coming to the Strike/Fighter pipeline might be showing up with and what the average numbers of hours are now in the syllabus?
FlyBoyd - any input on total hours at winging now with the parred down (?) T-45 TST
As a point of comparison, I graduated with about 260 hrs.
Cutting out the T-2C phase was suppose to cutting the hours and time to train.
Originally Posted by crewdawg
Don't be hatin' on the tweet...that was a fun jet!
I would venture to say they meant 200 hours in that particular airframe.
Times for a Viper guy.
T-37 = 120
T-38 = 150 (counting IFF)
F-16 = 100 (B-course + MQT)
So around 370ish hours before I was combat ready (relative term!)
I would venture to say they meant 200 hours in that particular airframe.
Times for a Viper guy.
T-37 = 120
T-38 = 150 (counting IFF)
F-16 = 100 (B-course + MQT)
So around 370ish hours before I was combat ready (relative term!)
Originally Posted by e6bpilot
That's what I was thinking too. That would be about right for a winged, first deployment nugget with a Fallon and boat det. They would have about 200 hours in type or about 425-450 total.
He only had 100 hours in the F-14 when he was called for some support. The group he was deployed with were all "nuggets" in a war zone with very low time in their respective air frames.
08-12-2013, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
I wouldn't say I was fast tracked (we stood down for 2 months before Desert Storm b/c no one thought we were going to go).
86 Tweet hours
147 T-38/AT-38
and ~7 months at my first duty station/180 hours in the F-15 (so ~410 TT) and I was flying my first combat sortie Jan 1991.
86 Tweet hours
147 T-38/AT-38
and ~7 months at my first duty station/180 hours in the F-15 (so ~410 TT) and I was flying my first combat sortie Jan 1991.
08-12-2013, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mspano85
I envy all you guys. I want the privilege of flying fast movers. Stupid childhood asthma. It truly is depressing to me. I wanted it so bad.
08-12-2013, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
I'm sorry you weren't able to give it a shot. Not that it would make you feel any better, but I'm pretty sure I never got past the "holy crap, this is awesome" phase and started taking it for granted. Even after 22 years. It really was a privilege, no doubt.
If any of you guys ever get an opportunity for a hop, please put in the good word to get me up. I have to get up in one at least once in my life.
I want to know what it's like to go the speed of sound the right way.
Although, I'd take a ride in an A-10 or AV-8B and be just as thrilled not going the speed of sound.
08-12-2013, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mspano85
Although, I'd take a ride in an A-10 or AV-8B and be just as thrilled not going the speed of sound.
08-12-2013, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mspano85
If any of you guys ever get an opportunity for a hop, please put in the good word to get me up. I have to get up in one at least once in my life.
I want to know what it's like to go the speed of sound the right way.
Although, I'd take a ride in an A-10 or AV-8B and be just as thrilled not going the speed of sound.
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08-12-2013, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Tweetdrvr
Save your dollars/rubles
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Ten years into the sequester and we too might start selling rides to buy flight time for our guys, but for now 20 years after the fall of the Soviet Родина this is the way to buy your dream.
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I should just buy a MiG-21. They run about $80k and a couple grand every hop. Anyone want to go in with me?
08-12-2013, 04:54 PM
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It costs an arm and a leg to get some MiG-21 training. I don't know how much I can trust this site. Two reasons. "The average piston engine student takes from 5 to 12 flight hours to accomplish a course." That seems insanely low for something like a MiG-21 or even the L-39. Second, in their pictures they show L-39 N39DF "Wild Child." That one crashed in California back in 2006 killing both the pilot and passenger. http://l39.com/sites/all/docs/ntsb/LAX06FA124_FR.pdf
It costs an arm and a leg to get some MiG-21 training. I don't know how much I can trust this site. Two reasons. "The average piston engine student takes from 5 to 12 flight hours to accomplish a course." That seems insanely low for something like a MiG-21 or even the L-39. Second, in their pictures they show L-39 N39DF "Wild Child." That one crashed in California back in 2006 killing both the pilot and passenger. http://l39.com/sites/all/docs/ntsb/LAX06FA124_FR.pdf
08-12-2013, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mspano85
I envy all you guys. I want the privilege of flying fast movers. Stupid childhood asthma. It truly is depressing to me. I wanted it so bad.
If that's what you want, pursue a career path that makes you an aerobatic instructor, then advanced aerobatic instructor, then eventually you become a sought-out resource and get your own plane, and then you'll probably find all the "ins" you need to get into a jet, at least like an L-39, but possibly even better.
Start off spinning instructors, then move to limited aerobatics/upset recovery and keep going from there. I know more than one person that has taken this route (and been pretty darn happy too!).
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