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Old 02-25-2007 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by NE_Pilot
People who start a radio call with "And" are either a bit older or trained by someone who is a bit older. It was used back when there was about a 3 second pause between the time you pressed the PTT and the time it actually transmitted, "and" happen to fill that gap nicely, so the "and" was never actually transmitted. Nowadays radios have come along way and so people who are still use to doing it the old way will say "and" out of habit, and it will be transmitted.

The other reason for "and" is because the person does not know what they are going to say yet, it acts as a vocalized pause much like "uhhhh".
Interesting. It's unfortunate that some younger pilots picked up this stupid habit and that the old pilots still using it don't know enough to change it.

And in my opinion, people should actually think about what they're going to say before they push that button and start babbling.
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Old 02-26-2007 | 03:04 AM
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Unfortunately some pilots clutter up the airwave with unneeded position reports. If there's two aircraft in the pattern you pretty well each know where the other is, no need for announcing every leg. Someone could take off or approach and get stomped on by a needless call. The problem with student pilots is they are trying to listen to their instructor and aren't paying close attention to other airplanes. So if I am in the pattern and someone starts all the obligatory position reports I stop making most of them myself and watch that aircraft like a hawk, they obviously aren't watching me. I have noticed experienced pilots will only make a minumum number of position calls in the pattern. Also, the more aircraft in the pattern the faster a call should be made when it is made. Another trick you can do is say "I have the so and so in sight" and let the specified airplane off the hook as far as his position report goes on that leg.
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