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Old 01-30-2007 | 03:19 PM
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I have some q's about some systems on the Seminole....can someone pm me that's willing to help?!

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Old 01-30-2007 | 03:33 PM
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Old 01-30-2007 | 05:32 PM
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Old 01-30-2007 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MileHighMama
I have some q's about some systems on the Seminole....can someone pm me that's willing to help?!

Thanks!
MHM
Feel free to ask your questions on here. Many of us have or do fly the mighty Seminole.
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Old 01-31-2007 | 07:41 PM
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Ask away, I got a manual filled with all the 411.
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Old 02-06-2007 | 04:29 PM
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Ah yes, the silent question...these are generally the better ones. And since it wasn’t asked, I’m sure others have the same question…just like my old Part-141 ground instructors always taught.

Well, if you reference your POH/FOM for the PA-44-180 Piper Seminole and its associated checklist, cross-reference these with some good old Kershner materials and you will find your answer. Advisory Circulars work, but I prefer to bring them in binder so I look smart during check rides.

However, if your question is something else, then checking with an A&P or Inspector, or your area’s AFD could be a better bet. E-6B’s could lead you in the right direction if you remember the conversion rate of 100 KIAS equals 168.7809840 feet/sec (Fact).

No, this is not helping either? Then try calling 1-800-WX-BRIEF and asking the FSS personnel your question (talk slowly of course). Once you get your answer, the local FSDO (phone number in the current FAR/AIM) may have been tipped that you don’t know something and then will start an investigation and possibly give you one of those 409 rides (or whatever it is) and yank your certificates and slap you with a violation. AOPA may be able to help if you are paying your dues.

You can have an aviation speaker talk with you on your subject. Be prepared to buy their latest book though. Some good old Rod Machado humor can go a long ways when you the FAA grounds you! Capt. Al Hanes also chimes in quite a bit. Watching the Sporty's video, "How an Airline Pilot Should Look and Act" is another classic way to waste your grounded time. This video makes more sence to me when I am "Soberly Challenged".

Please don’t let your friends pimp out their Piper Seminole like this guy did.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0350844/L/

It’s a trainer, not a Lear-45!


Well, once you get your license back, just remember that every single FAA regulation is suppose to be clear and concise even though there are conflicting rules that void out the original rule, many duplicate rules and rules in different Parts of the regs that may not be accesible to you. Do we all remember what the first word of Part 91 is? It’s Except.

Wow, I guess there really is an exception for everything.

So, now would be a good time to splash some water on your face, try to figure out that E-6B conversion and continue to surf around www.airlinepilotforums.com a little more!

Hope this helped with your questions! Houkeed onn fonicks wierkeed faour miee!

-Me Fly Airplane-

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Old 10-30-2008 | 03:59 PM
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So i'm a CFI/CFI-I/MEI and taught/recieved my ME rating in a 2006 seminole. I decided to switch Flight schools and i am now teaching in 4 older seminoles. They don't have un-feathering accumulators so an engine restart can take awhile. My question is, is it normal for all of the aviaonics to shut off then restart during an engine restart for these older seminoles? The newer one that i flew didn't have this problem, neither did the older Seneca i flew around in.. If anyone can shed some light ont his for me that would be great. So far the only theory i have is that the system voltage spikes very high during the restart and it overloads the system. but again, i'm not really sure. thanks
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Old 10-30-2008 | 04:13 PM
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Well, think about it this way. In any airplane, do you start the engine on the ground with the avionics master on? If you are using the starter to get the prop unfeathered, that's going to be the same high draw on the battery and you are repeating the situation on the ground that you have the avionics master off for in the first place. Cranking the starter.

That said, in my old Apache, the avionics don't shut down when I use the starter to unfeather the prop, and I don't turn the avionics master off, either (maybe I should).
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Old 10-30-2008 | 04:15 PM
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I think a better bet would be that when you shut down one engine it is only running on one alternator so...Being an old trainer more than likely that one alternator is probably not quite what she used to be and is trying to carry the load of the entire airplane when it should only have to do half the work. When you try to restart the engine (im guessing you are kicking the starter to give the prop a spin) the amount of power that it is taking to get that thing going (starters draw a ton of power) that the voltage is DROPPING and not spiking which is going below the tolerances for most of your instruments and causing them to temporarily shut down.

As for the orginal poster I am assuming between most of the users on here and our combined probably 500,000 hours of seminole time that we can get ANY question answered that you can throw our way.
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Old 10-30-2008 | 04:26 PM
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I instructed a little in old Seminoles. I only did about 10 '79 in-flight restart, but never had that happen. But I agree that it could just be the alternator's are old.
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