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say again 03-15-2016 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 2089096)

Your initial posts sounded like two busts, but just like Flat408, you've busted four times, haven't made it very far or to a PIC position, are quitting early, and your'e making the same excuses. You're the same person.

It's definitely the same person. Besides the points you pointed out, they both use the identical spaces when using commas and periods. He/she is not a very bright person. Don't waste your time with this loser.

bedrock 03-15-2016 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by LAXative (Post 2088677)
Why do you want sub-standard pilots flying in the NAS?

I don't. But what is standard? Are you assuming a person can't improve?

I know very good, conscientious pilots that have busted check rides, myself included. I've flown with check airman who have told me to approach the wrong runway, given me wrong DH info, and have wanted to depart during incoming thunderstorms. Are they above standard? Check ride pressure, where you are being evaluated, is not the same pressure as flying, in even in emergency.

I don't know this person's whole story, but people can improve and I do know the mentality in aviation of the "zero sum game" where others think they can reduce competition through badgering and authoritative opinion. In every other field, failure is accepted as a learning and growing process. How many times did Edison fail? Safety is not the issue, because a PROPERLY run training dept. will weed out those unsafe. Also the 1500 hr reqmt. helps a lot with that.

JohnBurke 03-15-2016 10:45 AM

A checkride doesn't ruin a carer, failed or otherwise. Many pilots have had training failures at some point in their career, myself included.

There is a big difference from recognizing one's mistakes and owning them, and learning from them, vs. attempting to transfer blame elsewhere.

One ought not carry that attitude into an interview, because it's not the training failures themselves that will shoot him down.

It's the low flying attitude.


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