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Hey guys just looking for some input , I just hit 1500 hours and sent a couple apps out to the regionals and all of them called back to interview . Long story short , I was sitting at two busts prior to my Cfi ride . Prepared as much as I could and decided to go to the Fsdo in my district . I had the option of going to another Fsdo since a friend went there after busting at my local Fsdo a couple times . So I decided to go to my Fsdo and my luck it was observed and they bust me twice . Can't Blaim anyone but myself . I went to the other Fsdo and passed with flying colors . To this day 3 years later I regret every day not going to that Fsdo in the first place . Now I am in fear that I lost my career before it even started . Every single day and night I think about it and regret my decision regarding my CFI ride to the point I barley sleep and lost friends and my girlfriend because they all say I turned into a different person ever since . I feel like I'm a criminal and lost all hope even tho I have passed two rides since .

Own up to it and move on. Tell the truth on all your forms and interviews and you will be fine. Some airlines don't look at a CFI chk ride as a pilot chk ride others do .If you tell the truth you will have a fare chance.

Why did you bust?
Same reason on both rides?

If I was interviewing a candidate, I would ask the reason.

If you learn and know the standards, you have nothing to fear and you will be able to make your case if someone tries to bust you for something OTHER than meeting the standards. This is one of the MOST important things that you need to learn as a pilot moving forward, because you have to understand what level you are training to, not what some instructor or some designated examiner told you or passed you for, but whether you are actually meeting the standards in the testing material. If you know you met the standards and you were failed for a non-legitimate reason, you can bring down all kinds of hell on the examiner if you take this up as many levels as you need to get it resolved.

I'll be honest, I really didn't know and understand the standards very well as a private pilot. As I took more checkrides and started studying the PTS, I started understanding it more. It wasn't until the flight instructor level and really diving into it that I really understood it all, but if you can expedite that in yourself and your students, it will benefit all.

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I can honestly say on my private ride I never even knew what a PTS was ,Young low hour pilot , nervous as can be but it was my fault I should have researched for it or I would assume my flight instructor could have mentioned it as I do to all my students . But any how the examiner had me perform a turning stall something I have never done during training or on my phase check. Gave it my best shot and the examiner said we'll have to do that again . On my commercial single I missed my touchdown point on my power off 180 and asked if I would be allowed to perform it again but the examiner said no second chanches , probably should have went around but finished it the next day

Well in the Cfi oral , the examiners both stated I was merely data dumping and not teaching , and they gave me a 8710 to look over and find mistakes on which Isn't even part of the PTS , and I missed some things on there such as some abbreviations. But anyway took the failure came back and did an 8 hour oral and on the flight I performed a power off stall to commercial standards , and then to private standards for a full break and had a wing drop which throw me out off standards . I explained why it happend and taught through the recovery but the examiner didn't let it slide. He gave me the option to come back and just finish the flight but I elected to go to a different FSDO and take the entire ride over and by far was the best examiner I have ever had for a checkride and that's why I beat myself up over it

If I could do it all over again I would , but I use my shortcomings to prepare my students to the best ability I can and so far all of them have passed

During the interview I'm going to be asked what happend, what did I learn and how did I benefit from it . I defiantly learned a lot and feel I'm a better pilot as a result but it's tough to elaborate further .

Soooo...your prior failures were because you went to the wrong FSDO, rather than because you didn't meet the practical standards?

When you say you can't blame anyone else, you're not really taking blame for anything other than choosing the wrong FSDO; you're still putting the blame on the FSDO.

Before you worry about where you can go with your two training failures, you'll need to address your own ownership of this situation. That's a key issue for a pilot in command.

You don't regret not studying more. You don't regret any other aspect of the problem, except not choosing a different FSDO. That's telling. Change that aspect; learn from your past. The lesson isn't choosing the right FSDO. Learn that first, then look down the road. The view will be much brighter.

--You posted as Flat408 just a few days ago, did you not? Nearly identical scenario and comments. Changing identities and trying again?