They will not hire military only pilots. Lots of ex-military but they were at airlines prior to EK. They prefer guys with 737NG and A320 time over RJs, but will hire RJ pilots when there are not enough applications from pilots with bigger aircraft experience.

TP

They just cut off the RJ hiring. Or maybe all FO hiring to get caught up.

What do you mean?

Again where.are you getting this info?

Again, from people that received that actual email that were in the middle of the interview process and did not make it to Dubai yet. I dont know what else to tell you unless you want me to post the actual email on here.

Its just odd as I know a guy thats heading out there shortly. Could you post the email or pm it to me. It woud be interesting to see the actual wording.

They did cancel all future PSP interviews for FO's in the states until further notice.

I saw the same thing, but does anyone know if that means they will just bring over US-based guys to DXB for interviews or have they postponed all US non-Airbus rated FO interviews until further notice?

Any idea why they don't want military only? I know they make the rules, but seems odd.

Most companies abroad won't hire pilots with military only time nor corporate only time, to them it is not odd, it is the norm.

They are concentrating on Direct Entry Captains only as of now. Therefore no FO's movement.

I heard the same thing from a friend of mine as well. If you were lucky enough to have a previous interview set up already to go to Dubai, then you are all good. I think there were some still in the pipeline with dates already. If not, then you are on hold for a while. Word is the guys who got hired in the past week or two got summer 777 classes. Can anybody confirm? At least that's what I was told. Sucks cause the issue in Atlanta wasn't our fault.

What issue?

Apparently they couldn't clear their testing computers through customs. None of us could take any tests.

"significant jet PIC time" What would that be? Is 2,000PIC jet enough (Part 121 CRJ)? Sounds like age discrimination is alive and well outside the US. Oh well, it is what it is. I'll also have to move on as I got the same response.

And you really think that it doesn't exist in the US? :rolleyes:

All the same, sorry that it is an apparent issue...

They're hiring DECs?

Try to keep up bud:D

Sheesh...I remember awhile ago (or actually it was within the last year or so) everyone was saying no more DECs. Guess I need to keep up with things!

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Hello all

New on this forum and like to get some info on EK..

Saw a previous post that F/Os are restricted to 48 years old max?? Can anyone confirm this?

I'm currently a B-777 right seat guy with 16000 + hrs mostly in wide body types ( Mostly Boeing ) and Narrow body Airbus too.

But I'm also 54 and it seems that it is important...

If you can provide feedbacks on my chances with EK if any, I will appreciate it.

Thanks

Pretty quiet lately. Any PSP folks that interviewed in dxb march or April hear anything at all? If so, how long after your interview. I got back from dxb over a month ago and still not a peep.

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I Have heard from a very reliable source that courses are full through September. I imagine there might be a few places due to cancellations- you'd have to be available with short notice. Good luck. Cheers

Well I dont mind waiting until sept or beyond for a class, just hope I hear something soon with regards to being hired or not.

Any rumours of a US pilot base?

cliff
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Not just rumors, confirmation: Not gonna happen. When they discussed growth plans, the building of the new 380 terminal etc, it seemed clear to me that the business model will focus on a hub in dxb only. Not a problem for me.

This has been talked about lots, seems every few years a new group of pilots starts the same old rumor. As a a retired FM said " It's not the Dubai way". All money paid to be spent in Dubai,becoming harder and harder to save but the powers to be like it that way.

I finally got the message yesterday that I've been "Shortlisted" on my FO application. What's the norm for how long it takes from that hurdle to an invite to interview? (I'm aware that I'm still not guaranteed the chance.)

Anyone else seeing any movement on their application process?

I was "shortlisted" in the middle of February and have not been scheduled for an interview, although I do still exchange emails with EK. A colleague of mine was "shortlisted" the week before me and has an interview slated for June. But that has been scheduled for a while. If you read up here you will see that EK is backlogged in training with DECs and A380 transitions.
Good luck and see you in DXB.

It seems the hiring has slowed down a little bit.

quick question...I'm still new in the aviation community. Student pilot working on commercial cert. If I were to go the whole cfi route to regionals and if I wanted to fly for emirates or someone like them as a F/O, would it be better to just build experience through regionals with a high seniority and stick with them, or move on up to a major and start off as a noobie? Hopefully the more experienced here can understand my question.

The real question is why would you want to make that your goal. Emirates is really only good for around 10-15 years. Some can last longer and still enjoy it, but most do not.

A young guy just starting out should not make Emirates their goal. Stay in your home country and work for the good airline(s) in your home country. That should be the goal. If it doesn't work out by the time you are in your late 30s or early 40s then you make the move to an overseas job. Either that or make Emirates a stepping stone to something better in your home country. Just stay for a few years to make yourself competitive against the hords of RJ pilots.

We'll be seeing a lot of guys leaving Emirates once U.S. hiring picks up starting late this year and early next. For just these reasons.


TP

I agree with Typhoon but also think there are some other reasons why Emirates should not be your first choice. The big reason why Emirates has been a good career choice over the last 15-20 years has been it's expansion. If you look back at this industry over the last 50 years, the pilots who had the best careers were largely the ones who got hired at the beginning of a wave. In all cases, those waves crested and died eventually.

Emirates pay (okay, not great) and working conditions (poor and getting worse) have varied over the last 20 years from poor to okay but what made it work for most guys was the fast upgrade (3 to 4 years). Those upgrade times were tied to the airline doubling it's fleet size every 3 to 4 years. While Emirates is no longer expanding at that rate, the time for upgrade has stayed relatively fast due to a disproportionate amount of their recent expansion being ULR flying which increases the crews per airplane dramatically.

Emirates announced plans show them well past the mid-point in their expansion with a lot of the long range flying already achieved. About the only thing keeping the upgrade time low for some are the arcane rules that they have for fleet transfers. The wave has crested and upgrade times will start to increase dramatically. Add to that the fact that Emirates is no longer flying under most countries radar and they have begun to work to limit Emirate's expansion plans. Young pilots flocking to the sandpit now are reacting to the situation that existed 5-10 years ago. Don't feel bad, Typhoon and I made the same mistake 23 years ago when we joined what had previously been the most profitable, highest paying (by equipment) and fastest expanding carrier in the country. (I'll give you a hint, it wasn't Southwest, FedEx or UPS). We were left to pick up the pieces of our careers and were lucky to find Emirates at just the right time.

To anyone under 35, I would suggest taking a step back and try to find the next Emirates.. Easier said than done but rest assured, they are out there and I wouldn't discount the US majors simply because of the huge amount of retirements coming. 25 years ago, Southwest, FedEx or UPS weren't on anybody's list for top jobs and 16 years ago when I joined Emirates (left last year after 15 1/2 years), people thought I was nuts. The place to get on now is not obvious.

Gillegan - excellent points. Guys chase airlines as if they're picking stocks from yesterday's headlines. It will be interesting to see what airlines lose pilots, and to which airline they go, when the retirement bubble bursts.

Some stagnated FO's tell guys to avoid their airline like the plague. The guys that get hired behind that stagnation point have the potential for fairly rapid advancement and will be senior for a long time if the airline survives. Bow wave theory always gets the freshest sand. Making that judgement call will be key once retirements start.

While your original airline was a great place 25 yrs ago it's route structure, from a long term perspective, was poor. The analysts back then talked about it's long term weaknesses. To some degree they still exist today.

Good post. Maybe the next place to be is USAIRWAYS (im pretty sure thats the one you were at), but the moral and pay at thst place is just soooo terrible.

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Not quite sure how I jumped threads here...

Things appeared to have slowed down at Emirates.

What makes you say that? Anyone looked at Qatar Airways lately?

And live in Doha? I've heard nothing but bad experiences.
I'm very open minded and can envision myself living anywhere, but not Doha...
But yes, looks like a good place to get some experience and go elsewhere after 3 years.