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Woofer 05-30-2007 05:49 AM

Emirates Interview
 
I shall be attending a selection process in DXB late next month. Can anybody who has recently attended the interview provide some feedback please? I heard that the technical quiz is a new format.

Any help on the matter would be greatly appreciated.

Regards to all

Typhoonpilot 05-30-2007 06:33 AM

Fogrunner is there as we speak. Send him a PM in a couple of days, I'm sure he'll be happy to answer.


Typhoonpilot

mike734 05-30-2007 08:38 AM

My wife interviewed there 15 years ago as a flight attendant. She walked out of the interview when they wanted to inspect her teeth. I'm not kidding.

Worldguy 05-30-2007 03:54 PM

I thought Fogrunner was a new Gemini guy. Not liking the prospects there or what?
WG

dojetdriver 05-30-2007 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by Worldguy (Post 173220)
I thought Fogrunner was a new Gemini guy. Not liking the prospects there or what?
WG

He's been at the Gem for a while. Recently transitioned from the 10 into the 11.

Woofer 05-31-2007 04:16 AM

Thanks
 
Thanks TP for the info.

jsfBoat 05-31-2007 02:36 PM

A new Gemini Guy on the -11, and is already to ready to leave! I might now him! (Hey Dad!)

dojetdriver 05-31-2007 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by jsfBoat (Post 173663)
A new Gemini Guy on the -11, and is already to ready to leave! I might now him! (Hey Dad!)

Why do you want to leave already?

fogrunner 06-02-2007 09:16 AM


I thought Fogrunner was a new Gemini guy. Not liking the prospects there or what?
WG

Originally Posted by dojetdriver (Post 173250)
He's been at the Gem for a while. Recently transitioned from the 10 into the 11.


Thanks dojet for bringing some reason back.

Hey WG you might be interested to know that Gemini/Bayside put a bid in on World, but were out bid by ATA.

fogrunner 06-02-2007 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by Woofer (Post 172916)
I shall be attending a selection process in DXB late next month. Can anybody who has recently attended the interview provide some feedback please? I heard that the technical quiz is a new format.

Any help on the matter would be greatly appreciated.

Regards to all

Hey Woofer I will PM you shortly.

A basic break down of the interview. Now the majority of info on PPRUNE is accurate as far as the format.

Day 1. Tech test and SIM. Forget about the ACE book, CAPT XYZ and the Emirates interview book for the TECH exam. They have changed it completely. You would be better off studying from the ATP written and FEX written.
The Emirates interview book is good review for the SIM profile, it is exactly what you will get.

You have to get through the first day, no ifs ands or buts.

Out of our group of 7, 5 made it through to days two and three.

One DEC candidate and one FO candidate were not asked to come back. As a matter of interest every DEC candidate from last week, I think there were 5, did not make it beyond day 1.

I thought about getting some SIM time prior to going to DXB. I was advised by a couple of folks at EK that I know not to bother.

Typhoonpilot gave me some excellent advice about the SIM. Basically map it out in your mind how you are going to fly each profile, basically chair fly each segment. Brief, brief, brief.



Day 2 Group exercises, tour and lunch.

Day 3 Psychometrics. Meet with the psychologist and the a board interview (pilot and HR lady)

However all this works out, I had a great time in Dubai. Our group worked really well together. When I was finishing up the panel interview the comment was made that our group had been very interesting to watch.

If you are interested our group consisted of 1 American, 1 Fijian, 1 Czech,
1 English, 1 French.

A/C we were currently flying, MD11, 744, A319, A320, B777

fogrunner 06-05-2007 03:05 AM

I forgot to mention. EK sends you for a medical after your final interview on day 3. Plan on 3 hours. The basic stuff plus xray and blood work.

Woofer 06-05-2007 12:30 PM

Thanks
 
Fogrunner,

Thanks a lot for your help and time on the matter. Hope that all goes well for you.

thanks again

fogrunner 06-05-2007 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by Woofer (Post 175765)
Fogrunner,

Thanks a lot for your help and time on the matter. Hope that all goes well for you.

thanks again

My pleasure... Typhoon is an excellent resource especially coming from his training perspective for the sim. The advice he gave me concerning the sim eval was priceless. I also used it for my 11 training.;)

fragglerock 06-08-2007 02:30 AM


Originally Posted by fogrunner (Post 174380)
Hey Woofer I will PM you shortly.

A basic break down of the interview. Now the majority of info on PPRUNE is accurate as far as the format.

Day 1. Tech test and SIM. Forget about the ACE book, CAPT XYZ and the Emirates interview book for the TECH exam. They have changed it completely. You would be better off studying from the ATP written and FEX written.
The Emirates interview book is good review for the SIM profile, it is exactly what you will get.

You have to get through the first day, no ifs ands or buts.

Out of our group of 7, 5 made it through to days two and three.

One DEC candidate and one FO candidate were not asked to come back. As a matter of interest every DEC candidate from last week, I think there were 5, did not make it beyond day 1.

I thought about getting some SIM time prior to going to DXB. I was advised by a couple of folks at EK that I know not to bother.

Typhoonpilot gave me some excellent advice about the SIM. Basically map it out in your mind how you are going to fly each profile, basically chair fly each segment. Brief, brief, brief.



Day 2 Group exercises, tour and lunch.

Day 3 Psychometrics. Meet with the psychologist and the a board interview (pilot and HR lady)

However all this works out, I had a great time in Dubai. Our group worked really well together. When I was finishing up the panel interview the comment was made that our group had been very interesting to watch.

If you are interested our group consisted of 1 American, 1 Fijian, 1 Czech,
1 English, 1 French.

A/C we were currently flying, MD11, 744, A319, A320, B777


Hello Fogrunner,

This is a great debrief you have given from your interview. I'm new to the forum and this is my first post. I'm trying to find info on study material, and was in the process of buying all the books you said are not needed. What do you recommend for study? Or, do you recommend just going in without any prep? I've been invited to an interview, and need any help you can offer. I've read a few of your previous posts and hope you make it this time. Both you and TP have provided a lot of good info, so far. Thanks, for any help you may be able to provide.

F-rock

fragglerock 06-08-2007 02:41 AM


Originally Posted by Typhoonpilot (Post 172933)
Fogrunner is there as we speak. Send him a PM in a couple of days, I'm sure he'll be happy to answer.


Typhoonpilot


Hello Typhoonpilot,

I've read several of your posts and have learned a lot about Emirates from them. Are you a Training Captain? I have and intervew scheduled soon, and was wondering if you could give me any info on what to use for preparation. It seems that all the books that I've been told to get are obsolete, now. What about the Emirates interview handbook? Is this a good aid? Do you have any info on the sim profile? I will be interviewing for a DEC position, and it seems that the success rate is low for them.

Do you really like it in Dubai? It's good to read some positive posts here after visiting Pprune. That is really a depressed group. It looks like you may not be taking the recall to US anytime soon. Too bad about the combined list.

Any info you could provide would be appreciated. Thanks.

F-Rock

fogrunner 06-08-2007 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by fragglerock (Post 177137)
Hello Fogrunner,

This is a great debrief you have given from your interview. I'm new to the forum and this is my first post. I'm trying to find info on study material, and was in the process of buying all the books you said are not needed. What do you recommend for study? Or, do you recommend just going in without any prep? I've been invited to an interview, and need any help you can offer. I've read a few of your previous posts and hope you make it this time. Both you and TP have provided a lot of good info, so far. Thanks, for any help you may be able to provide.

F-rock


Tech test and SIM: Forget about the ACE book, CAPT XYZ and the Emirates interview book for the TECH exam. They have changed it completely. You would be better off studying from the ATP written and FEX written.
The Emirates interview book is good review for the SIM profile, it is exactly what you will get.

The written is more operationally based now.

Typhoonpilot 06-08-2007 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by fragglerock (Post 177138)
Hello Typhoonpilot,

I've read several of your posts and have learned a lot about Emirates from them. Are you a Training Captain? I have and intervew scheduled soon, and was wondering if you could give me any info on what to use for preparation. It seems that all the books that I've been told to get are obsolete, now. What about the Emirates interview handbook? Is this a good aid? Do you have any info on the sim profile? I will be interviewing for a DEC position, and it seems that the success rate is low for them.

Do you really like it in Dubai? It's good to read some positive posts here after visiting Pprune. That is really a depressed group. It looks like you may not be taking the recall to US anytime soon. Too bad about the combined list.

Any info you could provide would be appreciated. Thanks.

F-Rock

In terms of preparation I'd listen to Fogrunner as he has interviewed recently. The DEC sim profile is slightly different with some more emphasis on CRM and decision making. The engine failure may occur in a different situation than you expect.

I like Dubai and I like my job, for the most part. Travelled in the States recently and it makes me so glad I don't work for a U.S. airline anymore.


Typhoonpilot

fragglerock 06-08-2007 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by fogrunner (Post 177173)
Tech test and SIM: Forget about the ACE book, CAPT XYZ and the Emirates interview book for the TECH exam. They have changed it completely. You would be better off studying from the ATP written and FEX written.
The Emirates interview book is good review for the SIM profile, it is exactly what you will get.

The written is more operationally based now.


Hello Fogrunner,

Thanks, for the reply. Do you have anything more specific on the interview? Info on the tech questions and profile would be appreciated. If you can't post here, please PM me. Thanks, again.

F-Rock

fragglerock 06-08-2007 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by Typhoonpilot (Post 177201)
In terms of preparation I'd listen to Fogrunner as he has interviewed recently. The DEC sim profile is slightly different with some more emphasis on CRM and decision making. The engine failure may occur in a different situation than you expect.

I like Dubai and I like my job, for the most part. Travelled in the States recently and it makes me so glad I don't work for a U.S. airline anymore.


Typhoonpilot


Hello Typhoonpilot,

Do you have any info on the DEC sim profile? Fogrunner says it is as per the Interview Handbook, so I should be prepared. I've never flown the 777 sim, though. Is this the one used for the ride? Please, PM me if you would rather not discuss on the open forum.

As far as living in the States, I've lived abroad for quite a whild during my military years, and I did enjoy it. Thanks, again.

F-Rock

Typhoonpilot 06-08-2007 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by fragglerock (Post 177213)
Hello Typhoonpilot,

Do you have any info on the DEC sim profile? Fogrunner says it is as per the Interview Handbook, so I should be prepared. I've never flown the 777 sim, though. Is this the one used for the ride? Please, PM me if you would rather not discuss on the open forum.

As far as living in the States, I've lived abroad for quite a whild during my military years, and I did enjoy it. Thanks, again.

F-Rock


The sim to be used is the one that is available. It could be the 777, A330, or even A310. Whichever one it is you'll have an FO who will help you with the differences. Again, the most important part for the DEC is the management of the aircraft and crew. If you don't score above average in that portion you will not pass regardless of how well you fly.


TP

fogrunner 06-15-2007 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by fragglerock (Post 177137)
Hello Fogrunner,

This is a great debrief you have given from your interview. I'm new to the forum and this is my first post. I'm trying to find info on study material, and was in the process of buying all the books you said are not needed. What do you recommend for study? Or, do you recommend just going in without any prep? I've been invited to an interview, and need any help you can offer. I've read a few of your previous posts and hope you make it this time. Both you and TP have provided a lot of good info, so far. Thanks, for any help you may be able to provide.

F-rock


I took this right off the EK website...

The First Officer Selection Programme
Selection programmes are conducted on a regular basis to meet the recruitment needs of Emirates. Candidates are invited to come to Dubai to participate in a three day selection process. The programme is designed to offer prospective employees the opportunity to experience both Dubai and Emirates and to identify any issues that may be an obstacle in progressing their interest in joining our airline. Additionally, it provides the opportunity for Emirates to get to know you. We encourage candidates to have their spouse accompany them, as it is a lifestyle decision for the entire family.

The selection programme is a two stage process and generally follows the outline below:

Day 1 - Stage 1
The first day of the programme will include a welcome brief, a logbook and documentation check, a technical quiz and the simulator assessment. The simulator session is conducted in one of our full flight simulators. You are not expected to be familiar with this aircraft; we will be assessing your basic flying skills, management and airmanship. This is the end of stage 1 of the assessment.
Following the simulator session, you will be notified if you have been successful in the first stage of the assessment. Candidates who do not progress from stage 1 will be free to return home or remain in the hotel for the duration of their intended stay.
It is important to remember that this is an interim assessment and, as such, does not constitute overall success within the selection programme for those who continue to the next stage.

Day 2 -Stage 2
The second stage consists of some assessment centre workshops, followed by a brief on some important information relating to the terms and conditions and the process of joining the Company. Candidates will then have the opportunity to visit examples of company accommodation, the Emirates Clinic and proceed on a short tour of Dubai, to learn more about the city and the benefits of living and working here. Candidates are encouraged to ask questions to clarify any issues.

Day 3 - Stage 2
Day three commences with psychometric assessments, followed by feedback from the Company Psychologist on your psychometric profile and finally, a panel interview. The interview presents the final opportunity to discuss any issues regarding your application to join Emirates. Candidates will also be required to undertake a medical, following the interview, if time permits.

As the programme is very comprehensive and includes the simulator assessment on the first day, you will be required to arrive in Dubai with sufficient time to be adequately rested prior to the commencement of the programme.

We will contact you to arrange your travel details, costs for the candidate (travel, accommodation for four nights and meals) will be borne by Emirates. Should you wish to bring your partner (which is encouraged), you will be responsible for all costs associated with this. Visas will be arranged by us for you and your spouse (if applicable).


You will be advised of the outcome of the selection programme six to eight weeks following your interview.

Things to remember for the selection programme
To maximize your opportunity for success, please keep the following points in mind:

- Please come prepared! It is important to have all the necessary documentation (including photocopies) collated and readily available.
- Be yourself. We are interested in seeing the real you, not the person you think we want to see.
- We are aware that there is much information in the marketplace about our selection procedures. Candidates should enter the process with an open mind, without preconceived ideas and overly prepared responses. The best way to maximize your opportunity for success is to listen carefully, follow the instructions and be yourself. Don’t place too much emphasis on what you’ve heard from other people. We change our programme regularly!

We look forward to seeing you in Dubai.

dojetdriver 06-15-2007 08:55 AM

Fog, just curious. I thought you were pretty happy at GAC, what gives?

fogrunner 06-15-2007 09:40 AM

Oh, I am. Seeing what is out there and keeping my options open. I think there are some rumblings of some exciting stuff coming down the pike.

fragglerock 06-17-2007 04:23 AM


Originally Posted by fogrunner (Post 180638)
I took this right off the EK website...

The First Officer Selection Programme
Selection programmes are conducted on a regular basis to meet the recruitment needs of Emirates. Candidates are invited to come to Dubai to participate in a three day selection process. The programme is designed to offer prospective employees the opportunity to experience both Dubai and Emirates and to identify any issues that may be an obstacle in progressing their interest in joining our airline. Additionally, it provides the opportunity for Emirates to get to know you. We encourage candidates to have their spouse accompany them, as it is a lifestyle decision for the entire family.

The selection programme is a two stage process and generally follows the outline below:

Day 1 - Stage 1
The first day of the programme will include a welcome brief, a logbook and documentation check, a technical quiz and the simulator assessment. The simulator session is conducted in one of our full flight simulators. You are not expected to be familiar with this aircraft; we will be assessing your basic flying skills, management and airmanship. This is the end of stage 1 of the assessment.
Following the simulator session, you will be notified if you have been successful in the first stage of the assessment. Candidates who do not progress from stage 1 will be free to return home or remain in the hotel for the duration of their intended stay.
It is important to remember that this is an interim assessment and, as such, does not constitute overall success within the selection programme for those who continue to the next stage.

Day 2 -Stage 2
The second stage consists of some assessment centre workshops, followed by a brief on some important information relating to the terms and conditions and the process of joining the Company. Candidates will then have the opportunity to visit examples of company accommodation, the Emirates Clinic and proceed on a short tour of Dubai, to learn more about the city and the benefits of living and working here. Candidates are encouraged to ask questions to clarify any issues.

Day 3 - Stage 2
Day three commences with psychometric assessments, followed by feedback from the Company Psychologist on your psychometric profile and finally, a panel interview. The interview presents the final opportunity to discuss any issues regarding your application to join Emirates. Candidates will also be required to undertake a medical, following the interview, if time permits.

As the programme is very comprehensive and includes the simulator assessment on the first day, you will be required to arrive in Dubai with sufficient time to be adequately rested prior to the commencement of the programme.

We will contact you to arrange your travel details, costs for the candidate (travel, accommodation for four nights and meals) will be borne by Emirates. Should you wish to bring your partner (which is encouraged), you will be responsible for all costs associated with this. Visas will be arranged by us for you and your spouse (if applicable).


You will be advised of the outcome of the selection programme six to eight weeks following your interview.

Things to remember for the selection programme
To maximize your opportunity for success, please keep the following points in mind:

- Please come prepared! It is important to have all the necessary documentation (including photocopies) collated and readily available.
- Be yourself. We are interested in seeing the real you, not the person you think we want to see.
- We are aware that there is much information in the marketplace about our selection procedures. Candidates should enter the process with an open mind, without preconceived ideas and overly prepared responses. The best way to maximize your opportunity for success is to listen carefully, follow the instructions and be yourself. Don’t place too much emphasis on what you’ve heard from other people. We change our programme regularly!

We look forward to seeing you in Dubai.


Hello fogrunner,

Thanks, for all the info and PMs. I made it through the full 3 days and the info both you and Typhoonpilot gave on the whole process was very valuable. Overall success rate for both fo and dec were very high during the week I was there.
Did you hear anything yet? You posted that you hear that good things may be coming up. Are you speaking of your current job or EK?

Thanks, again.

F-Rock

fogrunner 06-17-2007 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by fragglerock (Post 181472)
Hello fogrunner,

Thanks, for all the info and PMs. I made it through the full 3 days and the info both you and Typhoonpilot gave on the whole process was very valuable. Overall success rate for both fo and dec were very high during the week I was there.
Did you hear anything yet? You posted that you hear that good things may be coming up. Are you speaking of your current job or EK?

Thanks, again.

F-Rock

You are more than welcome. I am glad it went well for you. I was refering to my current position.

fragglerock 06-22-2007 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by fogrunner (Post 181500)
You are more than welcome. I am glad it went well for you. I was refering to my current position.


Hello fogrunner,

Any news from Emirates yet? I'm still waiting to hear from them, myself. Please, PM me if you need to. Thanks.

F-rock

Bill Lumberg 06-23-2007 05:27 PM

Talk about A380s
 
Just curious. What do the EK interviewers have to say about your likely aircraft assignment? If you get far enough, do you get an indication as to whether you would likely get A330/40, 777 or A310 (cargo)? Also, what are they saying in the interviews about upcoming A380s? Are they saying that you might start on the 777 and then have a direct route to A380s as they come on board or do they not make any suggestions?

Any mention of potential non-Dubai bases in the future (like Cathay Cargo)?

Skyone 06-24-2007 12:03 AM


Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 184368)
Just curious. What do the EK interviewers have to say about your likely aircraft assignment? If you get far enough, do you get an indication as to whether you would likely get A330/40, 777 or A310 (cargo)? Also, what are they saying in the interviews about upcoming A380s? Are they saying that you might start on the 777 and then have a direct route to A380s as they come on board or do they not make any suggestions?

Any mention of potential non-Dubai bases in the future (like Cathay Cargo)?

First, it will snow here in the desert before off bases. In a word NO. If you have a lot of Boeing glass time, you probably will get the Boeing, otherwise they will let you know when they hire you. Right now they are saying that there won't be any mixed fleet flying on the A380, ie, if you are flying the other buses presently, you won't fly both. Of course all that is this week. And don't see the chance of many Boeing pilots going to the 380. Hope this helps a little.

Bill Lumberg 06-24-2007 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by Skyone (Post 184481)
First, it will snow here in the desert before off bases. In a word NO. If you have a lot of Boeing glass time, you probably will get the Boeing, otherwise they will let you know when they hire you. Right now they are saying that there won't be any mixed fleet flying on the A380, ie, if you are flying the other buses presently, you won't fly both. Of course all that is this week. And don't see the chance of many Boeing pilots going to the 380. Hope this helps a little.

So, there is a possibility of hiring into the A380 when they arrive? The reason why I asked is that I heard that some retiring Delta pilots (early retirements) were told that they would get the "fast track" to the A380 when it arrived if they brought their 20,000+ hours of experience to EK. This was a year or two ago and completely 2nd hand information but that is what I heard.........

Skyone 06-24-2007 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 184589)
So, there is a possibility of hiring into the A380 when they arrive? The reason why I asked is that I heard that some retiring Delta pilots (early retirements) were told that they would get the "fast track" to the A380 when it arrived if they brought their 20,000+ hours of experience to EK. This was a year or two ago and completely 2nd hand information but that is what I heard.........

Perhaps someone like TP can shed more light on the A380, but I don't think they will be putting any new hires into the 380 right away. And the Delta pilot rumor-no way. I guess I only had 19000 hours so they didn't put me on the fast track. Plus since DAL has never had any buses (except the 310 from Pan Am) they would be better off getting bus experience from somewhere else. But again, from my perspective there won't be any new hires for a couple of years on the 380. But like the shifting sands here, everything can change.

fragglerock 06-24-2007 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by Skyone (Post 184591)
Perhaps someone like TP can shed more light on the A380, but I don't think they will be putting any new hires into the 380 right away. And the Delta pilot rumor-no way. I guess I only had 19000 hours so they didn't put me on the fast track. Plus since DAL has never had any buses (except the 310 from Pan Am) they would be better off getting bus experience from somewhere else. But again, from my perspective there won't be any new hires for a couple of years on the 380. But like the shifting sands here, everything can change.

Hello Skyone,

Do you currently work at Emirates? I was there recently for the interview, and according to them the initial cadre for the 380 will be current 340 drivers. This does make sense. Not even the current 777 drivers will be able to bid over until after the first year or inial 10 380's have been filled, I believe. So, you're right, no new hires will be able to fly it, initially.

F-Rock

Typhoonpilot 06-25-2007 04:24 AM

I think they will put new hires onto the A380 in very short order due to cost savings versus taking A330/340 First Officers over and then having to replace them on the A330/340. By having new hires straight onto the A380 it is only one training event versus two if you take A330/340 First Officers. That said I think they will be choosy in which new hires go to the A380. Most likely only ones with previous time in A320/330/340 would qualify.

I do not think this same logic will be applied to Direct Entry Captains for two reasons. One is that by taking A330/340 Captains over to the A380 they free up spots for upgrade on the A330/340 thus improving morale. Two is that they will have far higher quality control on which Captains go to the A380, at least initially. The DEC hiring is supposed to be winding down anyway.

Current A330/340 First Officers with some minimum time in service ( one or two years ) and new hires (with previous Airbus time) will get the A380.

It may or may not matter in the big scheme of things unless a person has some great desire to fly the biggest airplane made. The airplanes all pay the same so the one with the faster upgrade; best variety of flying; and most days off would be the best one to be on.

That's my two cents,


Typhoonpilot

orville 07-11-2007 06:07 AM

Hello to all. New to the forum. Need some advice.
I'm interested in applying for Emirates but want to know if I'm spinning my wheels. Currently fly for DHS and close to retirement but stuck in a desk job for the past year. Have 6300 TT, 23OO jet, Typed in B737 and CE550. Will Emirates even consider someone like me.
Any thoughts and/or suggestions.
Thanks.

MatthewAMEL 07-21-2007 06:58 PM

Well, I was called for a First Officer interview (Aug 12-14) and I'm a lowly CRJ driver. 4400TT, 1700PIC, so I would say just put in your application and see what happens.

On that note, can someone provide a little insight into how it is to work for Emirates? How is living in Dubai?

Thanks!

bus canuck 07-21-2007 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL (Post 199859)
Well, I was called for a First Officer interview (Aug 12-14) and I'm a lowly CRJ driver. 4400TT, 1700PIC, so I would say just put in your application and see what happens.

On that note, can someone provide a little insight into how it is to work for Emirates? How is living in Dubai?

Thanks!

Well first off, although I'm sure you're being sarcastic, I don't really like the constant talk of "lowly RJ driver." I was a "lowly" driver when I was hired by EK almost 5 years ago and I don't recall feeling second rate, although there are some here who feel "their" experience is superior. Your quoted level of experience is perfectly acceptable for an F/O position at a major carrier.

Anyway, as to your other question, most of that information is covered on this board, even in this thread, so you should do a bit of surfing.

I can quickly summarize what this reasonably happy pilot tells people.

There are 2 issues, Dubai and EK. You have to be able to find satisfaction in both.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, the better-half has to like (or at least tolerate) DXB. We hate the traffic, the lack of manners and the brutal summer heat. We like the education, health care and we're able to pursue most of our hobbies. Kids are well adjusted and happy.

For EK, a pretty good company with the exception of horrible Flight Ops senior management. That means that pay and benefits are OK, I've had mostly good experiences with HR, Accommodations and other departments. Flights Ops, however, are incompetent, lazy and immoral. There is no regard for seniority when if comes to upgrades and there is no regard for international standards and law when it comes to Flight time and Duty Limitations. Sadly, Mr. Ed, our import from Mesaba, has turned out to be the worst of the lot, for which of course he was recently rewarded with a promotion to "Senior VP."

Middle Flight Ops management is OK. For example training is getting better and the Fleet Managers are generally helpful.

Hope this helps.

Mink 07-21-2007 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by bus canuck (Post 199939)
Flights Ops, however, are incompetent, lazy and immoral. There is no regard for seniority when if comes to upgrades and there is no regard for international standards and law when it comes to Flight time and Duty Limitations.

Yikes!:eek:

zander 07-27-2007 11:31 AM

hello bus canuck-just curious, I worked with Capt A for a while, although not surprised by some of comments about him, just curious about specifics. You can PM me a reply if that's easier. Thanks

bus canuck 07-29-2007 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by zander (Post 203511)
hello bus canuck-just curious, I worked with Capt A for a while, although not surprised by some of comments about him, just curious about specifics. You can PM me a reply if that's easier. Thanks

I assume you mean the "Talking Horse?"

I don't want to go too far in public forum, but suffice to say he has put his signature to some arrogant memos, has presided over the adoption of "factoring" hours which allows us to fly to an and illegal level and continues to rule over an upgrade process that ignores seniority. (Actually, it ignores any common sense or logic.)

It’s even weird that he insists on being addressed as “Captain” even though he’s in a non-flying position and has never been a Captain on any of our aircraft.

Anyway, these types don't last too long at EK, so I'll just wait and look forward to the next one.

As I keep saying, EK is still generally a pretty good gig, if you're so inclined, and I really don't want to dwell too much on a few screwball VPs.

Qpilot 08-01-2007 06:26 PM

Back to the Emirates Interview part of this thread.
I finally got the word 3 months after returning from my Emirates interview that I was unsuccessful. It was hard for me to believe it would take them 3 months to tell me no, but it happened. Pretty disappointed about the result. Would have loved to fly for Emirates. Good luck to all that are applying. If any applicants are interested in my interview experience shoot me a PM and I'll be happy to help out.

Bill Lumberg 08-01-2007 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by Qpilot (Post 206982)
Back to the Emirates Interview part of this thread.
I finally got the word 3 months after returning from my Emirates interview that I was unsuccessful. It was hard for me to believe it would take them 3 months to tell me no, but it happened. Pretty disappointed about the result. Would have loved to fly for Emirates. Good luck to all that are applying. If any applicants are interested in my interview experience shoot me a PM and I'll be happy to help out.

Sorry to hear that. Perhaps Cathay Cargo on the 400F would be a good next option - at least you can live in the States.


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