With many airlines, time on type is usually a requirement of the DGCA of the country where the airline is domiciled.

One may have many hours as PIC on the C-40 the military designation of the B737 or the C-32 the designation of the B757. Many DGCAs do not recognize PIC on the military designated aircraft.

By not submitting an application to EK result in an unanswered mystery as how the EK and the Emirates DGCA recognize PIC on military designated transport aircraft.

Good luck Tanker Driver

 

In the past, I used mil time to meet the minimums, and it worked.

*************.com is a very good site, especially for jobs. To get on there, you have to give them your pilot cert. number, and they look it up. Pilots ONLY.

flightinfo.com also has info, but pprune.org has the most.

cliff
GRB

 

That's fine. Problem is if you have ONLY have mil time. EK still for some strange reason require people to have commercial airline time in addition to mil time.

 

I am in the process of Interviewing with Emirates. Does anybody know how many days off (average) per month are the line pilots getting. I have heard that it has been reduced to 14 because the check airman only get 14 days off per month.
Secondly, is a week of vacation worth a calendar week or is it used in a formula to convert to hours or missed trips or something else

 

14 could be in the ball park for a 777 or 380 pilot on a high bid month. Maybe on low bid as well. Don't count on more than 8/10 on the 330-340 fleet.

As per the vacation question, not sure I understand it, but we get 42 days of vacation a year. You still get paid your basic pay during vacation.

 

Days off is a poor metric to use at Emirates. Every time I see this question I look at a bunch of friend's rosters and am never able to come up with an average. Why?, because in any given month a guy might have vacation, reserve, etc. The other major problem is definition. What is the definition of a "day off". At Emirates there are also "rest days" and "ULR standby". There are basically two types of rest days. One is where you have a flight that starts at approximately 0200 the next day. The day prior is a "rest day". Another is where you return to Dubai anytime after 11:30pm in the evening. The next day is a "rest day". Some are better than others, but usually you'd be home no later than 2am. ULR standby days are a day of reserve where you can only be used for another ultra long haul pairing. 99 percent of the time it's just a day off in Dubai before your scheduled ULR pairing the next day.

So when looking at a roster I might see only two "days off" in a row, but what might be there is a rest day prior and a rest day after. Not really 4 days off, but definitely more than 2. Get the point?

When you talk about "check airman", we use the term instructor or TRI/TRE. I'm a TRE and it's true my days off are usually less than a line pilot. However, I am home in my own bed for about all but 3-5 nights per month. My normal schedule these days is ten sim duties per month and five days of flying. That sounds like 15 days off per month, but remember the rest days reduce it to 12-13.

The better question to ask any friends at EK is, "how many days/nights are you at home per month?". Or, "how many duty periods do you have in an average month?".

Oh, and remember the different fleets vary greatly for the above two questions.



Typhoonpilot

 

^^^
Best Days Off analysis I have read about EK rosters.
True, that a days off number does not usually accurately reflect the actual pilot workload. If you are done at 01:00 and have a trip the next day at 22:00 that shows as no days off.
What I am reading is, that the nights away from home can be an issue with the spouses, since they are only there because of the husband/wife.

Is is fair to say that EK crews sleep away from home about half the time?

How many extra days off per month that are not on the actual roster as days off, should one anticipate or hope for?
Is the minimum 14? Better on long haul heavy equipment?

Thank you

 

A quick check of some rosters shows that the number of full nights away from home is somewhere around 7-11 for the normal line pilots. If you went with an average of ten that would probably be realisitc. Some months will be less and some more.

Emirates only has long haul equipment.

The minimum number of days off in a 28 day period is legally set at 7 with an average of 8 over a three month period. The realistic monthly average is probably around 12 "days off" on the Boeing and 9 on the Airbus 330. You could reasonably expect another 2-4 rest days per month.



Typhoonpilot

 

well its fair to say we sleep at home half the time....listen, one of the big issues you need to think about is when you get home, say after a flight of 8-14hrs, and you walk in the door around 6am is that your family is just waking up...and you're wiped out. So you try to sleep in a noisy house at sunrise and you'll feel the pressure (internal and external) to get up and spend time with your family.

After some time of this they get ****ed off and you get ****ed off. Its a tough situation. You spend some of your days off readjusting to dubai time....you feel like a hangover after awhile that never really goes away. You may even take your next trip not fully recovered from your last. This job is 24/7. Not like back home.

 

Thanks for all the responese. It seems that the days off question is complicated. I am reading that counting standby days as days off gives a line pilot about 14 days off a month. Does this seem accurate?
As far as vacation I am trying to figure out if your vacation falls in the middle of a trip do they just drop the whole trip?
Does a week of vacation give you a calendar week off? For instance if you have a 5 day trip 3 times in a month and your vacation falls on the week you dont have a trip do they drop the trip either before or after your vacation?
Thx for all the help.