Quantas
04-03-2008 | 12:32 PM
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Quantas
So other than getting a visa to work in Australia, anyone know anything about getting on with Quantas, and their mins? According to their website these are the mins:
500 hours in command of a powered fixed wing aircraft (excluding ICUS), or
250 hours in command of a powered fixed wing aircraft (of which up to 100 hours may be ICUS) and 1000 hours First Officer time on turbine RPT operations, or
150 hours in command of a powered fixed wing aircraft (excluding ICUS) and 1500 hours First Officer time on turbine RPT operations, or
250 hours in command of a powered fixed wing aircraft (of which up to 100 hours may be ICUS) and 500 hours in command of rotary wing aircraft.
So is it really 500 hours PIC, thats it? Any insight, especially from a Quantas pilot would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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500 hours in command of a powered fixed wing aircraft (excluding ICUS), or
250 hours in command of a powered fixed wing aircraft (of which up to 100 hours may be ICUS) and 1000 hours First Officer time on turbine RPT operations, or
150 hours in command of a powered fixed wing aircraft (excluding ICUS) and 1500 hours First Officer time on turbine RPT operations, or
250 hours in command of a powered fixed wing aircraft (of which up to 100 hours may be ICUS) and 500 hours in command of rotary wing aircraft.
So is it really 500 hours PIC, thats it? Any insight, especially from a Quantas pilot would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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04-03-2008 | 04:43 PM
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For the love of god there's no "U"....
They do not like Australian ATPL's converted off the back of FAA ATP's and that's from one of the guys in recruitment.
So to Druglord's list you can add all 7 ATPL theory exams plus the IREX, which is quite possibly the worst exam I have ever had the misfortune to take.
It's not just a work visa, you have to have Australian residency, otherwise we'd be invaded by poms who fancied a 2 year sabatical.
Oh and the cost of my class 1 and IR renewal just cost me US$3000, so it's not bloody cheap.
They do not like Australian ATPL's converted off the back of FAA ATP's and that's from one of the guys in recruitment.
So to Druglord's list you can add all 7 ATPL theory exams plus the IREX, which is quite possibly the worst exam I have ever had the misfortune to take.
It's not just a work visa, you have to have Australian residency, otherwise we'd be invaded by poms who fancied a 2 year sabatical.
Oh and the cost of my class 1 and IR renewal just cost me US$3000, so it's not bloody cheap.
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04-03-2008 | 08:13 PM
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04-04-2008 | 01:34 AM
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Yes, however don't ever say this out loud but the irony is my countrymen put the Brits and most other nationalities to shame when it comes to whinging. We still have better weather and far better looking women, though....
04-04-2008 | 10:11 AM
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CASA will not allow you to sit all 7 exams if you are converting a license. Asked about doing it and CASA said no. Their problem is they don't know what to do if you fail an exam, that you didn't require in the first place, so they won't go down that road.
For the average American (i.e. Me) to convert a FAA ATP to CASA ATP(A)L you will end up sitting CPL Flight Rules & Air Law Exam (CLWA) + ATPL Air Law Exam (AALW) + Instrument Theory Exam (IREX).
Total cost for Exams, Flying (required for initial MECIR), Class 1, ASIC and fees was around $6500 AUD in 2007. You could save about $800 AUD by using someone else's regs, plates, and pubs.
Immigration is a separate process with it's own headaches and fees.
Longer post on PPRUNE http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...ght=MayFly135s
See ya'll in Longreach for a history lesson and a pot of XXXX Bitter!
For the average American (i.e. Me) to convert a FAA ATP to CASA ATP(A)L you will end up sitting CPL Flight Rules & Air Law Exam (CLWA) + ATPL Air Law Exam (AALW) + Instrument Theory Exam (IREX).
Total cost for Exams, Flying (required for initial MECIR), Class 1, ASIC and fees was around $6500 AUD in 2007. You could save about $800 AUD by using someone else's regs, plates, and pubs.
Immigration is a separate process with it's own headaches and fees.
Longer post on PPRUNE http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...ght=MayFly135s
See ya'll in Longreach for a history lesson and a pot of XXXX Bitter!
04-04-2008 | 10:30 AM
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Gotta love industry protection!
FWIW i was told from CASA (they like to tell ppl different things just to keep them on their toes) that you can indeed do the ATPL exams after converting a FAA ATP to an Oz ATP(l) but if you fail one of the exams they will then take away your converted license until you pass all the exams.
Bottom line: Easier to do it the traditional way.
Easier to get a decent job in the USA anyhow
FWIW i was told from CASA (they like to tell ppl different things just to keep them on their toes) that you can indeed do the ATPL exams after converting a FAA ATP to an Oz ATP(l) but if you fail one of the exams they will then take away your converted license until you pass all the exams.
Bottom line: Easier to do it the traditional way.
Easier to get a decent job in the USA anyhow
04-04-2008 | 10:33 AM
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Yeah, good old CASA; Beauraucratic w@nkers....
Prior to last year if you did the conversion by taking the 2 air law exams and the IREX plus the flying and then decided to go and do all the exams you didn't require in the first place but failed one, they would revoke the license and not reinstate it until you'd passed all the ATPL exams.
MayFly, who are you flying the triple for?
Prior to last year if you did the conversion by taking the 2 air law exams and the IREX plus the flying and then decided to go and do all the exams you didn't require in the first place but failed one, they would revoke the license and not reinstate it until you'd passed all the ATPL exams.
MayFly, who are you flying the triple for?
