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Old 08-21-2010 | 03:33 PM
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Question I have is will I still have my FAA certificates, or does the JAA send a letter to the FAA saying that the certs. have been converted and I have to surrender them?

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Old 08-21-2010 | 04:12 PM
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From what I have read and heard, plan on 6 months and something north of $10k to convert. Also, there is NO single path. It depends on hours, experience and tickets you hold.
Also, the 14 exams are no chip shot. Lots of theory.
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Old 08-21-2010 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jsfBoat
I have the right to work in Europe and am thinking about doing this. Question I have is will I still have my FAA certificates, or does the JAA send a letter to the FAA saying that the certs. have been converted and I have to surrender them?
The obtainment of the "JAA" certificate is not a conversion. With that being said, your FAA certificate(s) are unaffected. It is a certificate earned under a foreign state. Some member states under the JAA system will not permit dual certificates ie; UK and IAA... you need to choose one or the other.

14 exams are still required to be written. However the number of hours and actual experience will dictate as to whether or not you need to attend gronud school, or take a distance learning course.
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Old 08-21-2010 | 07:08 PM
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I returned from the US with about 800 hours and I'm doing the "conversion" course now.
Basically 14 monster books (one exam per subject), I think you have to go through 650 hours of theory for the JAR-FCL atpl course, where about 500 of them can be distance learning, and the rest I'm doing in 3 weeks of groundschool lessons.
After that comes the checkride to convert to cpl/me/ir, which is (in my country at least) 10-30 hours before checkride.
Everything included, cost me about $20 000
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Old 08-24-2010 | 02:42 PM
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I'm in the process and it's not a fun one, but I'm actually liking the detail in every subject. So far I feel it's a better system than the FAA with the mind set of creating a very knowledgeable commercial pilot.
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Old 08-24-2010 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by FLowpayFO
I'm in the process and it's not a fun one, but I'm actually liking the detail in every subject. So far I feel it's a better system than the FAA with the mind set of creating a very knowledgeable commercial pilot.
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Old 08-25-2010 | 04:02 AM
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one more thing that we have to keep in mind, its actually harder to get a job in Europe than in the States....

Believe it or not, there more jobs in the U.S at present.. not trying to discourage anyone, something to keep in mind.
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Old 08-25-2010 | 07:43 AM
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Obtaining a JAR certificate is a matter of time, money, studying, and exams.

With that being said, and with the state of the economy and high unemployment in Europe, obtaining a work visa in some EU countries will be a far greater hurdle to overcome than acquiring a JAR certificate.

Most overseas carriers in Asia and the Middle East accept both JAR and FAA certificates. Where as in Africa, most carriers will accept only a JAR certificate.
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Old 08-25-2010 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by captjns
The obtainment of the "JAA" certificate is not a conversion. With that being said, your FAA certificate(s) are unaffected. It is a certificate earned under a foreign state. Some member states under the JAA system will not permit dual certificates ie; UK and IAA... you need to choose one or the other.

14 exams are still required to be written. However the number of hours and actual experience will dictate as to whether or not you need to attend gronud school, or take a distance learning course.
In regards to the dual certificates, does that mean if I take my check ride or become employed in either UK or IAA I would have to surrender my FAA? This is the first time I have heard this.
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Old 08-25-2010 | 11:34 AM
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You DO NOT have to surrender your FAA.
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