JAA conversion
07-17-2008 | 08:54 PM
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My thoughts exactly! Nevertheless, if you have a load of student loans, and if anyone asks you, I'll deny I told you this 
, but it could be well worth your "money" to just move away to Europe and just, well, do away with the loans. Most European countries have very protective laws against foreign lenders trying to collect from any of their citizens. Switzerland, Germany France, etc. etc. England has the most friendly laws toward foreign debt collection. Don't go there if you are looking to "cleans yourself".
, but it could be well worth your "money" to just move away to Europe and just, well, do away with the loans. Most European countries have very protective laws against foreign lenders trying to collect from any of their citizens. Switzerland, Germany France, etc. etc. England has the most friendly laws toward foreign debt collection. Don't go there if you are looking to "cleans yourself". Well I thank you all for the responses. Definitely plenty of information there. Enough to talk me right out of it too! HA. It all seems a little ridiculous to me, not to mention all the time and money I've poured into this job already, I'm not pouring that much more in. But again, thank you guys.
07-17-2008 | 10:33 PM
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as bad as it seems, i think it's worth going through the process of the 14 exams and some extra flying. It opens a completely new market of jobs, which in some countries put you behind some heavy aircraft, even if you dont have thousands of hours. Especially now, since every regional in US is furloughing, anyone who is willing to put some time and effort in converting the license can do it.
You can also do the conversion in the US. School in naples in FL does it, and they have the home study course as well. Work as a CFI, or a FO at a regional (if you still have the opportunity to do so) and study for the exams during off hours. This would probably take the longest but at least you stay in US and have a job and still manage to do the 14 written exams, which seem to be the toughest part of the conversion process. After the exams, find a proper school in Europe to do little bit of flying and convert IR and CPL.
To me it seems to be the easiest way of converting without spending too much time in Europe without a job.
Hopefully I'll be able to get through this process quickly. Good luck.
You can also do the conversion in the US. School in naples in FL does it, and they have the home study course as well. Work as a CFI, or a FO at a regional (if you still have the opportunity to do so) and study for the exams during off hours. This would probably take the longest but at least you stay in US and have a job and still manage to do the 14 written exams, which seem to be the toughest part of the conversion process. After the exams, find a proper school in Europe to do little bit of flying and convert IR and CPL.
To me it seems to be the easiest way of converting without spending too much time in Europe without a job.
Hopefully I'll be able to get through this process quickly. Good luck.
Again I am not knocking a person doing the conversion, but unless you have a EU passport or some PIC on heavy aircraft then you really should consider if it is worth your while doing the tests. It is not like it is a few simple tests, it is going to take up your time for a few months. Remember that many airlines in the EU will require you to pay for a type rating, they will have some bias against you if you are American, and there is many European low time pilots without instructor ratings waiting around for jobs. You would be surprised to find out how many European pilots think that paying 30k euros is just part of the process to get a job.
07-17-2008 | 11:38 PM
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Nice post shomrock23,
I'm currently in europe and the market is not the best either. Only few airlines are hiring and one of them is Ryan Air, and guess what. they require you to pay 30000 euroes for the TR and line training. There is a bunch of low timers in europe that are willing to do that.
So, my final worlds. Don't think once you have the JAA license you can come and get a job.
I'm currently in europe and the market is not the best either. Only few airlines are hiring and one of them is Ryan Air, and guess what. they require you to pay 30000 euroes for the TR and line training. There is a bunch of low timers in europe that are willing to do that.
So, my final worlds. Don't think once you have the JAA license you can come and get a job.
07-18-2008 | 12:30 PM
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Not to be an ass, but every person I know that has gone for the JAA has said that it is the hardest thing they have ever done. I have dual citizenship so maybe it is a good idea for me, but if I was unsure about getting a job with American citizenship alone, I would seriously consider the effort.
Again I am not knocking a person doing the conversion, but unless you have a EU passport or some PIC on heavy aircraft then you really should consider if it is worth your while doing the tests. It is not like it is a few simple tests, it is going to take up your time for a few months. Remember that many airlines in the EU will require you to pay for a type rating, they will have some bias against you if you are American, and there is many European low time pilots without instructor ratings waiting around for jobs. You would be surprised to find out how many European pilots think that paying 30k euros is just part of the process to get a job.
Again I am not knocking a person doing the conversion, but unless you have a EU passport or some PIC on heavy aircraft then you really should consider if it is worth your while doing the tests. It is not like it is a few simple tests, it is going to take up your time for a few months. Remember that many airlines in the EU will require you to pay for a type rating, they will have some bias against you if you are American, and there is many European low time pilots without instructor ratings waiting around for jobs. You would be surprised to find out how many European pilots think that paying 30k euros is just part of the process to get a job.
I completely agree...the written exams, so I heard, are tough and takes long time to complete, all I was saying is that it might not be a bad idea to be able to work in Europe or US, just simply more job opportunities. It's a hell of a process but if you're committed and work hard, you'll pass the exams.
I have dual citizenship as well so I didn't consider that, but good point, if you cant work in Europe, dont even bother. At this point I know that if I complete the conversion there's an opening on a ATR or even EMB in my country. Shouldn't take u long to figure out which country that is
07-18-2008 | 04:12 PM
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07-19-2008 | 07:20 AM
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I hear EUROLOT is hiring continously for the ATR, again, as long as you have JAA conversion done. My friend went last fall to do the conversion, and now he's in training for EMB170 for LOT airlines. I don't think it's a bad gig Maybe I'll do the same instead of working for MESA
Maybe I'll do the same instead of working for MESA
07-19-2008 | 07:24 AM
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07-19-2008 | 10:06 AM
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