Cheyenne Driver

Sioux115, you seem to be the one with the latest info on hiring, since you just returned from an interview. Can you share your experience? Who were you was interviewing the same time as you? What were the backgrounds, experience, etc.

I just applied (FO) with lots of T.Prop time very little jet. Maybe should do the SO app. instead.

Cheyenne Driver

[quote=Cheyenne Driver;450635] Who were you was interviewing the same time as you?


Sorry about the typo, Who was interviewing with you? Just curious about the competition, experience, and backgorunds.

Thank you.

Sioux115

I applied for both FO and SO initially. Did my first interview for a FO spot, then I guess CX picked up alot of Oasis pilots which are filling the DEFO spots so they offered me a SO. I had 4100tt and 2700 Sic jet when I interviewed. The other guys I interviewed with for SO had about the same total but were pic in t-props. I think there are still lots of pilots who interviewed for FO when I did that are still waiting for a final interview.

marpoo

hey sioux,
i was wondering if you have posted a list of the questions that you were asked. i have an interview soon, and wanted to get some of the latest info. i have all of the gouges that are out there right now (pprune, willfly, apc forums etc) but was hoping for something more recent than those posted on there.

thanks mate

Cheyenne Driver

Sioux, Thanks for the response. Good luck.

Marpoo. When did you apply? How were you contacted for the interview? Phone or email. Where are you going for the interview?

Badgeman

Being kinda new to the whole reading and interpreting of airline hiring minimums pages, I guess I would have just expected the airline to update their page every, I donno, SIX MONTHS!! ...to keep people who are relatively under-qualified from, I donno, WASTING THEIR TIME!!! The difference in the minimums posted and the real hiring is two to three years of experience! This is tantamount to negligent misrepresentation! Bull%^&*!

And behold! A group of proactive pilots were there, and they created airlinepilotcentral.com, and it was good.

Thanks guys. Appreciate the help.

mpflis

Let's take the hood off for a while, I think you're experiencing a little bit of disorientation. Once again, the minimums are just that.....minimums.....to APPLY....but similar to the DELTA JOBS PAGE......When evaluating the flight time of applicants meeting the basic qualifications, consideration will be given to, among other things, quality, quantity, recency, and verifiability of training; complexity of aircraft flown; types of flight operations; and hours flown as PIC in turbine powered aircraft. Applicants invited to interview must provide appropriate documentation of all flight hours. Now if you think there is a big difference in a job at Delta vs Cathay, the difference is that within 2-3 years you'll definitely be a wide body FO. Does 1000 hrs of right seat observation flying in a 172 make you more qualified or desirable than someone who has airline experience, not to mention an incredible way with words, and I quote, "I donno?"

Comprende?


Delta Pilot Basics

We are proudly recruiting pilots for first officer positions. As a new Delta first officer, you have an opportunity to initially be assigned to a MD88/90, a 737NG, or even a 757/767 aircraft type among our fleet of more than 440 aircraft. To qualify for employment as a pilot with Delta, you must meet all of the following requirements.
General Requirements

* At least 21 years of age
* Graduate of a four-year degree program from a college or university accredited by a recognized accredited organization
o Degrees obtained from a non-U.S. institution must be evaluated for equivalency to U.S. degrees by a member organization of the National Association of Credential Evaluation Services (NACES)
o Postgraduate education will be given favorable consideration.
* Current passport or other travel documents enabling the bearer to freely exit and re-enter the U.S. (multiple reentry status) and be legally eligible to work in the U.S. (possess proper working documents)

FAA Requirements

* FAA commercial fixed-wing pilot license with an instrument rating
* Current FAA First Class Medical Certificate
* Passing score on FAA ATP written exam preferred

Flight Time Requirements

* Minimum of 1,200 hours of total documented flight time
* Minimum of 1,000 hours of fixed wing turboprop or turbofan time

When evaluating the flight time of applicants meeting the basic qualifications, consideration will be given to, amont other things, quality, quantity, recency, and verifiability of training; complexity of aircraft flown; types of flight operations; and hours flown as PIC in turbine powered aircraft. Applicants invited to interview must provide appropriate documentation of all flight hours.

Badgeman

What are you saying? Are you saying it's still a good deal? Or are you mocking my disgust with the lack of due diligence that the people who operate the hiring websites seem to think they can live without? I mean, it's the applicant that has to completely divulge every last detail about themselves but the airline thinks it can just posts nebulous vagueries. It's like opportunistically fishing with a dragnet, not caring what kind of casualties arise from essentially "shot-gunning" the market.

BTW: CFI'ing is a far cry from what you call "observation flying". I take exception to your under-informed opinion. I could out-fly any hands-off, degenerated-flying-skill, 4th year F.O. any day, and probably even in his own RJ at that! You try simply "observing" as what amounts to a Captain with cardiac arrest tries ogering-in for the fifth time in 30 minutes. I don't see any FO's having to keep the flight from getting completely lost as he tries to teach his Captain a lesson about the difference between true and magnetic north. If you want to talk about keeping your cool, when was the last time an FO on a regional had to tell the captain 6 times in a row over a 15 second period he needed to stop climbing to stay out of over-lying class C air-space and not scream at him? Oh that's right I forgot FO's on regional airliners get their hands held through class A space exclusively. What about every student that puts you into a real life "engine out" emergency check list at least once during their privates by leaning out the mixture ALL THE WAY. When was the last time an auto-pilot primadona even looked at an emergency checklist while flying? "Observations flying". Ha!

You say, the minimums are just that...minimums...to APPLY. Are you trying to tell me that I actually have to fly 1000TT just to have the "privilege" of applying for a job I know I'm not going to get?? Why would I even send in an application for a job I know I'm not going to be considered for? NO, 1000TT means I will be seriously considered for a job as described at 1000TT. The regional airlines post the minimums that they a HIRING AT, not the minimums you become privileged enough to mail them toilet paper at.

ryguy

Easy killer, you need to settle down a bit. All of us autopilot lovers have been where you are. This is the way the process has always worked and always will. Those mins are there as a way to get low time military guys into the mix as well as family and friends. Right or wrong, this is the way it is.

Ranting and raving on the board isn't going to get you anywhere with this group. We all paid our dues and have been frustrated over the years. There is no substitute for experience and right now this is what the market dictates.

Do yourself a favor and cool off before posting. Immature rants like this don't help anyone, mostly yourself. If you self destruct it is no worry to me but you are firing away at the people that will be in a position to help you when you do get the experience.

Hacker15e

Most of the minimum hours around 1,000 are aimed at military fighter guys who log most sorties around the 1.5 mark and end up with only 1,500 hours or so after a 10-year hitch flying fighters.

So, lots of high performance flying experience packed into a low amount of hours.