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Old 02-14-2010 | 07:08 AM
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From a mate at EK sent two days ago. . .

Dear Colleague,
With the continued expansion of Emirates and our ongoing aircraft arrivals, we require a large number of pilots to join our Flight Crew team. We would appreciate your support in spreading the word that we are recruiting.
Your referrals and recommendations assist us in our selection of pilots by providing us with quality candidates with whom you have previously worked with. It is also beneficial to the candidate to have contacts within our pilot group so they can understand better about life in Emirates and Dubai.

We would appreciate your assistance in forwarding this email onto any contacts you may have who would be interested in a position with Emirates.

If you have candidates you would like to recommend who have already applied online, please contact our Pilot Selection Team:
Michael Keating [email protected]
John Halloran [email protected]
Rick Cyr [email protected]

Many thanks for your support.
Kind regards,

Kathryn Ferguson
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Emirates employs highly skilled and successful Flight Deck Crew from around the world. We are currently recruiting experienced and technically proficient First Officers to fly our extensive international route network. The First Officer position offers an exceptional opportunity for ambitious pilots to develop their career on one of the youngest high-tech fleets, with one of the fastest growing and most profitable airlines in the world.
We also offer job security as well as a competitive package and many lifestyle benefits. In addition to a competitive salary and the opportunity to live in one of the world's most cosmopolitan cities, we offer a comprehensive benefits package that includes accommodation and utilities support, health and life insurance, excellent end-of-service benefits, generous staff travel access for family members and educational support for children (studying in Dubai or overseas).
Emirates' order of US$ 9.7 billion was the largest to date for the Boeing 777 family of aircraft. Delivery of the 24 B777-300ERs, 10 B777-200LR Worldliners and eight B777 freighters began last year and has helped to meet the increasing demand to our current destinations in over 60 countries. In addition, Emirates has taken delivery of 7 out of its 58 A380s orders, 30 expected to be delivered by
December 2012. These new aircraft will also help us explore exciting new destinations on every continent.
To apply to Emirates, candidates must have a minimum of 4000 total and 2000 multi-engine jet hours (preferably with MTOW of > 55 T), ICAO ATPL and ICAO English level (4 or above). We will provide candidates with a round trip ticket to Dubai from an Emirates destination to attend our Selection Programme.
For further information on all aspects related to flying for Emirates, and to apply online, please visit emiratesgroupcareers.com


Kathryn Ferguson
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Office: (+971 4) 708 1745
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Old 02-14-2010 | 11:45 AM
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Emirates employs highly skilled and successful Flight Deck Crew from around the world. We are currently recruiting experienced and technically proficient First Officers to fly our extensive international route network. The First Officer position offers an exceptional opportunity for ambitious pilots to develop their career on one of the youngest high-tech fleets, with one of the fastest growing and most profitable airlines in the world.
We also offer job security as well as a competitive package and many lifestyle benefits. In addition to a competitive salary and the opportunity to live in one of the world's most cosmopolitan cities, we offer a comprehensive benefits package that includes accommodation and utilities support, health and life insurance, excellent end-of-service benefits, generous staff travel access for family members and educational support for children (studying in Dubai or overseas).
Emirates' order of US$ 9.7 billion was the largest to date for the Boeing 777 family of aircraft. Delivery of the 24 B777-300ERs, 10 B777-200LR Worldliners and eight B777 freighters began last year and has helped to meet the increasing demand to our current destinations in over 60 countries. In addition, Emirates has taken delivery of 7 out of its 58 A380s orders, 30 expected to be delivered by
December 2012. These new aircraft will also help us explore exciting new destinations on every continent.
To apply to Emirates, candidates must have a minimum of 4000 total and 2000 multi-engine jet hours (preferably with MTOW of > 55 T), ICAO ATPL and ICAO English level (4 or above). We will provide you with a round trip ticket to Dubai for our Selection Programme from any Emirates destination.
For further information on all aspects related to flying for Emirates, and to apply online, please visit emiratesgroupcareers.com

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Old 02-14-2010 | 12:27 PM
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They seem desperate.

I have an application on hold for a DEC position. May I please enquire whether the 'accelerated command' programme is still in force?
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Old 02-14-2010 | 12:42 PM
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Accelerated command is (offically) gone. If you fancy to being fired for doing a missed approach while in training, apply, there's a reason they're desperate for pilots.
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Old 02-14-2010 | 12:43 PM
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Anyone got any ideas for the time to command in EK? I heard in the past it was 3-4 years, but now it's somewhere between 7-8? Can anyone confirm?
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Old 02-14-2010 | 07:06 PM
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I heard by friend there, around 8 to 9 years, BUT 62 A/C's delivery between now and 2012 and plus 100 more until 2016, I really doubt it.
https://ekgrpapplications.emirates.c...pub=%2fenglish
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Old 02-14-2010 | 09:27 PM
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There were four former EK gents interviewing with me in China. Their fun meters with EK have pegged out… thus resigned their member ship with the club. Their complaints, to name a few, ranged from termination of the quick route to command… a capitation on utility co-payments… being paired with inadequate Emirate Captains… being thrown under the bus when the Emirate Captain commits an aviation related faux pas… increased productivity to 92 hours per month for the same pay.

As the late Sy Simm, of Simms Clothing said… “An educated consumer is our best customer”. Perform your due diligence before accepting the job offer.

FlyDubai… and extension of EK is of no great shakes either.
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Old 02-15-2010 | 12:27 AM
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FlyDubai wants (and this is from two buddies on NG's who have looked) a fully type rated NG driver with time on type to sign a bond worth, wait for it. . . the cost of an NG type rating.

This is now happening in China as well for guys looking to upgrade (typed and current on the aircraft, so why the bond?). I'm all for companies having bonds, but it would appear that paranoid operations are starting to ask for unreasonable, what I would call completely unreasonable, conditions from the pilots in order to keep them around.

If the T&C's, lifestyle and culture of said airline are good then the pilots will stay, be happy, and work hard for the company. Perhaps these HR run operations could take a good look at places like AJX/NCA and get some hints. . . or they could just fire the entire HR departments, either is good by me.

But I digress off topic. . . again.
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Old 02-15-2010 | 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by KoruPilot
FlyDubai wants (and this is from two buddies on NG's who have looked) a fully type rated NG driver with time on type to sign a bond worth, wait for it. . . the cost of an NG type rating.
The training bond requirement, not indicated on their initial offering, prior to the formal interview, applied to the initial cadre trainers too!?! I don't get it but calling the management and HR team at FlyDubai stupid is a plain insult to those who are just plain stupid.

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Old 02-15-2010 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jet320
I heard by friend there, around 8 to 9 years, BUT 62 A/C's delivery between now and 2012 and plus 100 more until 2016, I really doubt it.
https://ekgrpapplications.emirates.c...pub=%2fenglish
Well for one, there's a lot of old airframes to be replaced and second, there's a big question over financing of the new airframes. They still have to make those 6 or 7 380's we have profitable. And we're supposed to get 58 of them? Oh god....

Tim Clark said recently he sees the airline at about 160 airframes in 2015, we have ~125 now.

For what it's worth.
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