captjns

There is a recruiting company based in India, PROCTOR AVIATION, with alleged offices in the UK looking for NG and ATR captains. They will not divulge any details about the airline or terms and conditions of the alleged contract unless you provide them with a CV. Very suspicious I would think.

AKASHA

Why is that suspicious? Its not unusual for a recruiting company to withhold information. Its in their interest to do so because they charge a fee to recruit pilots. Thats how the business works. They could give you all the information up front and then you don't need them anymore.

I was recruited for a flying job in India in the same fashion. I am in the ACASS database and they have called for several opportunities. But all they would tell me up front was the job was in Asia.

Don't smear a legitimate recruiting company based on your lack of knowledge in this area and your unfounded fear.

rotorhead1026

Well, they're on Climbto350 and the positions are in India (which I could have guessed, actually). You can get a general idea of the terms by looking around Pprune (or other companies on Climbto350). I wouldn't necessarily call being secretive a red flag, but in this case it doesn't accomplish much except to annoy your prospective contractees.

captjns

With the volumes amounts of applications to complete on the internet, sometimes without success due to their network server error, I have never found it necessary to waste my time with leads to nowhere. reputable contacting companies should not be averse to share information with a prospective applicant… but that’s my opinion.

By the way, I agree… ACASS… a pretty good class act.

AKASHA

Yea, I get that. Afterall, if you want me to move to Asia to work I'm gonna require a little more information. I'm just saying... for example, the recuiter may do all the groundwork and offer you 7K/month when the client is paying 8K/month. That extra grand could be yours if you could deal directly with the employer. So the recruiter understandably protects their interests.

MeLu

The aviation recruiting companies ( never heard much of them with my capt brother ) must pass you the general data, of what to expect, the terms and conditions before turning in CV. Basically, via email or on a phone, before turning in CV ones personal data. Either one takes it or live it.Melu

Speed

Proctor seems to be growing. Anyone on the forum have experience with them yet?

chazbird

Sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but I think I have dealt with a good number of the agencies and with one or two exceptions (PARC is one and the other good ones fall behind) they are truly bad situations. I have flown in Asia twice before and it was a pretty great (and interesting) experience. I've been trying to get another contract but thanks to various agencies sitting on my material or lying to me or flat out being frauds they have managed to let my currency fall by the way side, which of course makes things much more difficult. I am just going to either write to an airline directly (which worked previously) or go over there again and try it that way (which has also worked before).

Here's a great example of them not divulging who the contract is for: I thought it was for XYZ. I asked them is it for XYZ? They did not deny this. I went forward with hoop jumping only when I am accepted it is for XXX, in another (far less desirable) country. Then they lied about the terms for that.

Maybe others have had better luck.

KoruPilot

If you're using the statement "your lack of knowledge in this area and your unfounded fear" with JNS then you don't spend a whole lot of time on this site.

As stated by another here, be very careful with who you deal with as far as recruitment companies go, especially in India. There are a heap of reputable companies and they always give reasonable information about the prospective employer, if not the name of the airline (in most cases the name of the airline is included).

The Dominican

This point cannot be stressed enough, the agency you sign with is as important if not more than the actual job you select. Do your research into the agency that will represent you because the relationship and support they provide will affect your overall satisfaction with not only the job you decide on but also any future contract you might want to explore.