gloopy

So let's make it 3. Only for the ME3 airline employees though. I have no problem with anyone else getting it.

A huge portion of that is state and local tax anyway.

Well then maybe ME3 should take some of their bling and pay their pilots more, especially if we help encourage it through changes to our tax code.

gloopy

And you keep up the good fight against the evil racist Muricans just trying to keep those poor innocent foreigners down! You are bringing social justice to the world with your superior products that hard working minorities deserve! Fight the power!

galaxy flyer

Gloopy,

You might review "due process" in the 14th amendment and Art.I, Section 9, Clause 3 as to why that can't happen.

I am still waiting for a reason American carriers don't compete, IF the agreement allows for "beyond rights". Clearly there is a huge underserved market in India, Asia and Africa which is where EK got started. EY and QR are the ego fueled carriers who just took EK's lead.
GF

gloopy

DL is trying to be as big a player in Africa as it can relative to the markets and security concerns there. DL was ran out of NYC-India by heavily dual subsidized "competition". DL is growing in Asia and has plans to continue for a long time.

There is no way the so called "open skies" we agreed to with ME3 was completely unlimited. That would be absolutely stupid for us to agree to, has never been agreed to with any nation ever, and in the unlikely event its ever allowed, we should immediately withdraw from it.

I agree that EY and QR are little emotional copy cats, but EK is very much EGO driven, especially with their scorched earth footprints and growth plans for the EU, US and Australia. The whole world isn't clamoring for hourly super jumbo service from every city in the world, including the US, to Dubai, Doha and Abu Dhabi.

And the Constitution is only as strong as the progressive that's reading it. Since its supposedly a "living document" subject to the whims of a changing vernacular and the social political zeitgeist, it should be no problem implimenting a carve out of the tax loophole for them. Worst case just make it apply to every expat from dollar one. It is used as a primary recruiting tool to come after American jobs. Fly for EK and don't pay US taxes. That is a primary form of their compensation for those considering working there.

EXPAT1

Good Luck with that hahaha! Best laugh I have had today. My bet is on an ever increasing tax exclusion. It goes up about 3% per year and is now almost 100K tax free and then the write-offs allow most EK pilots to pay Zero taxes. If Management and Labor continue on demonstrating their stupidity looking for silly strategies like this and curtailing Open Skies then what you will see is all these jobs will go overseas as Emirates and other LCCs fly most of the International passengers.

The smart path forward is Forging Alliances, Buying newer efficient ULR aircraft like 787s and A-350s and providing an equal or superior product. The same old airplanes, crappy service and disgruntled Cabin Crew are sure to accelerate the loss of Flying jobs.

Ichigo

Gloopy:

Before you continue to embassrase your arrogant self, you are absolutely clueless to what you are saying! You opinion does not matter with your lack of knowledge and understanding in this matter.

Go back and try to fix the subsidies that are being given to the legacy pilots and airlines. Yes, low wage commuter and regional pilots that are, if not the majority, represent by ALPA. The same legacy pilots with ALPA threw away scope for every short sighted and selfishness benefitting the legacy pilots. Are you one of those turds that voted for it in the past?

Don't forget the many subsidies we get from the city, local, and state for having our HQ, hangars, reservations, etc stay in that community? Have you forgotten the concept of an airline "alliance"? Who did management gave those American flying jobs to when UAL, DL, AA form their self subsidized "alliance"? Yeah, I forgot the benefits of the "alliance" is for the company and not for Ameriancan Pilots and their jobs. Go back in history read about that.

Go get a global economics and statistical international analyst degree before you come here spewing your untempered knowledge which you clearly lack. Better yet, go read books in about history. Then, you come here, ask how management farmed out American flying jobs to "Alliance" forgein pilot jobs. Also, look at how legacy pilots are being subsidized by regional pilots pay by the same management who gave the farm away to foreign airlines because of their "alliance".

Before you mouth off again, ask how many state sponsored airlines are flying into the U.S. and how many do you actually know the inner workings and future plans of those airlines.

gloopy

For the purpose of our discussion, only 3 that are anywhere near the size and scope of the predatory ME3.That's the point and you know it. Air Wheremenistan's one flight a day may be subsidized 100% but that isn't a threat to the entire US industry like ME3 are. The threats, hysteria, cheerleading and bribes do not change the fact that the heat is on those ego driven meglomaniacs in a major way.

The first step is slamming the door on them tresspassing into other agreements like EU with MXP-US. While its only one city now, stopping that cancer early will be a huge victory and its looking like it has a good chance.

The next step is cutting off their little Boeing welfare check. That also looks like it has a fairly good chance of happening.

After that we can take a look at the nature of the "open skies" with that tiny "country" and their barely existant relative to demand O&D and hopefully see that for what it is. The incremental selling of our industry to bribers and extortionists. Once the light of day is shined on that plan, a much closer look at using schemes like that to get around labor laws and basic human rights is right around the corner.

Enjoy your shiny super jumbo tax free gig poaching US and EU pax while you can. Oh and speaking of taxes, the US and EU are broke. They will be needing revenue quick and ravenously. While its not a frontburner issue right now, it won't take long. They've been laying the groundwork for years getting their fingers into previously immune banking markets and forcing them to play by their rules. Its only a matter of time. And we'll see how long oil stays low (some think it may go lower if Iran's supplys start coming online and SA starts dumping capacity to punish them for their regional influence) and we're running out of money to keep paying for the regional defense of the emerati.

Whip Whitaker

You sure about that Gloopy? Seems like a lot of business groups in the U.S. are not on your side.


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/17/bu...e-us.html?_r=0

By the way Gloopy, averaging over three posts a day for the the last 5 years with rather disrespectful and abusive commentary? Perhaps you should take some time off. Or even better meet with your airline psychologist. I'm sure they would be very interested in talking to you.

gloopy

Pretty sure that the political trends do not favor anywhere close to the manifest destiny of the ego driven ME3. They are in a hysteria over this and the amount of money at stake is obvious. Obviously, you can never underestimate the power of bribes, extortion and corruption, but it looks like our chances are fairly good for at the very least some meaningful reform and at best stopping the predatory ME3 cold in their tracks. Its cool you disagree. We get the allure of shiny new widebodies and tax free income. Yes Captain, No Captain, etc. Its appealing. So keep cheerleading. But hey if that doesn't work, just play the race card, or call those that disagree with you crazy.

EXPAT1

Judge Tosses Delta's lawsuit to shut down Im-Ex Bank.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/07/bu...bank.html?_r=0