johnso29

Hogwash. You're actually implying that because one limo driver makes money, then by logic all corporate pilots make good money? Man, you've got to do some more research.

BTW, NetJets has 450 pilots on furlough and I'm fairly certain they're on a concessionary contract. They make less then many Legacy pilots.

My point being, there will always good and bad jobs in both fields. While it's true that the CEO of Microsoft flies around in a private jet, can the same be said for all of his employees that travel on business? Corporate business accounts are huge for airlines.

Sliceback

Typhoon - what's your LTD after the year?

Most U.S. carriers have fairly decent LTD programs due to the risk of losing your medical.

The Dominican

Disability insurance is a standard item on most jobs abroad, what is your point?

Typhoonpilot

For loss of medical it's 48 months basic salary.

There are other group programs that many of the pilots are in that have different provisions. One is called LIPS:

Loss of Income Protection for Emirates Pilots


TP

iluvetops

I believed those monies paid during the time of ones disability will be deducted from that 48months of LTD benefit. For example, if one is out of flying for lets say 7 months, then should one lose his medical in the future, he/she will be paid for 35 months as a LOL.

The Dominican

Depends on the contract and agency, we have had several pilots gone on medical leave for extended periods and they remained employed and were paid during the time. Also their response to family emergencies has been very good in my opinion, we had a couple of pilots who their spouse pass away, they also remained employed and were paid for several months until they could get their family affairs in order. But of course, you don't get those benefits everywhere

Probe

I heard Emirates can be a good deal. I think if I was younger and had school age kids it would be my first choice.

I think Emirates and Etihad are more "new legacy" carriers, or at least they are trying to be.

For contract jobs you can pay extra for loss of license, but it isn't very good. Several hundred dollars a month, and the benefits are fairly low.

Contract job medical insurance can be quite a bit better. Bhupa Gold and a couple of the other deals are better than the insurance I have back at my US legacy carrier. Some jobs they are free, some you pay a little bit. My last job I think it was 75 USD a month extra, including being med-evaced out. (not to the US)

The insurance for the job I am going back to is 200 a month, with a 2000 annual deductable, and 20% co-pay after the deductable.

I had just finished a contract when I broke my leg. I had no insurance. My total bill, that I paid myself, was less than I would have had to pay in the US, with insurance.

Probe

A mistake. Some contract jobs include Loss of License for free. Just not the two I just did.

Controlled Rest

The only thing I would do differently is try to get my expat job sooner than I did. Working in Asia isn't for everybody, but if it is for you, you can't really beat it. Anything that you could possibly want to do is no more than a short flight away. You like skiing? I've yet to find better snow than in Japan. Maybe you're a water sports enthusiast? The number of fabulous places to go to the beach, go sailing, diving, surfing, kiteboarding..etc is far too numerous to even begin to list. Maybe you like climbing/trekking? Well we have these little hills called the Himalayas nearby. Perhaps you're a city person? You like some good shopping or nightlife? Bangkok, Hong Kong, Tokyo...they make American bars look like playtime at kindergarten and the shopping options are unmatched. History and culture your thing? We're smack in the middle of most of the oldest civilizations in the world. Just about anything that you can do back home, you can do 10x more, bigger, better, or harder in Asia, and usually at a fraction of the cost.

The only thing that Asia doesn't have is...your family! So if THE most important thing in your life is living near your parents/in-laws/siblings...etc, then an expat job isn't for you. If you're happy to go visit them once a year and spend the rest of your free time doing the things I listed above, then come on over. Also if you're a person who likes things a certain way (ie the American way) then Asia probably isn't for you either. I have worked with people who love being here and people who hate it. Without fail the people who hate it fall into one of the 2 categories I just mentioned. Either they hate being away from their relatives so they spend all their free time back home and don't get to experience what Asia has to offer, or they can't adapt to the different cultures.

Probe

Controlled Rest.

Here, here. I couldn't agree more.