Need CRJ200 crews, Afghanistan
03-10-2014, 08:05 AM
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Yes, the crews absolutely need to be protected. A Marriott with armed guards would be one of the biggest targets in the country.
It may be possible to also do 6 weeks / 20 days off.
Originally Posted by TonyWilliams
Info about the job:
Crew Base: Kabul, Afghanistan
Accommodations: provided by company in secured and armed compound
Schedule: 21 days consecutive duty (with required crew rest), 10 days off.
Office location: near Dubai, U.A.E.
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So your employees "accommodations" need to be protected by an armed compound? Unless this is a Marriot with armed guards, it sounds like prison.... And 21 consecutive days? yeah no thanks.
Crew Base: Kabul, Afghanistan
Accommodations: provided by company in secured and armed compound
Schedule: 21 days consecutive duty (with required crew rest), 10 days off.
Office location: near Dubai, U.A.E.
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So your employees "accommodations" need to be protected by an armed compound? Unless this is a Marriot with armed guards, it sounds like prison.... And 21 consecutive days? yeah no thanks.
It may be possible to also do 6 weeks / 20 days off.
03-10-2014, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by M696
21 days on and 10 days off with the opportunity to see the World sounds a whole lot better that a Stateside regional.
For folks who are content doing six legs a day, stuck in the right seat at a low paying USA "regional", they should just keep on doing that. It's absolutely an easy choice for many. We wouldn't even want somebody to come here and complain all the time. Save that for this forum and your regional crew lounge.
Yes, the airline is a start up, and we will be relocating our two CRJ-200's from Dubai to Kabul in the next few weeks.
We currently have four captains and three FO's. I'm loathe to suggest that we are getting "bigger iron", but I will say that the immediate plan is to add three Boeing 737's (on a separate AOC) and possibly several CRJ-900's.
It's hard to say how long the CRJ-200's will be around, but they will accomplish the goal of launching the airline. They are former Lufthansa birds with dual IRS, dual FMS, HUD and HF. They have been painted, both gone through extensive A checks in Dubai, and hopefully will be ready soon.
Sim training is likely to be in Minneapolis, Toronto, Copenhagen or a remote possibility of Kuala Lumpur.
On your duty rest days (during the 21 days of duty), you're welcome to buy a $175 one-way ticket to Dubai and relax. Dubai is about 3.5 hours away. The company doesn't pay for that, any more than a USA regional does. The company main offices are near Dubai.
There is a flight allowance, so you can book your own tickets home for rotations. You can fly First Class, or "no class". It's up to you.
Again, for all the "sky is falling" posts, I think the message is loud and clear. This isn't a job for everybody, but it could be a rewarding opportunity for a rare few.
03-10-2014, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Windsor
No effin way is living under constant fear of danger better than a regional. I had a friend do one of these contract jobs in Yemen a few years ago.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhoQIgnF4rM
03-10-2014, 04:20 PM
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Having flown the C-17 in and out of Afghanistan for 7 years now with four beefy engines and 3 or four sets of eyes up front, I'm not sure you could convince me to do it in a CRJ with just one other guy in the cockpit. Kabul is a zoo. Herat... same. Mazar, sure, just don't hit the ridge. The hostile fire part isn't what would bother me. It's literally everything else about the airspace. That and the -200 performance on a hot day around some of those 20000 MSL peaks... meh. Maybe for someone younger and more adventurous.
I'll keep putting up and down the east coast in my RJ and be quite content.
I'll keep putting up and down the east coast in my RJ and be quite content.
03-10-2014, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by stamps
Having flown the C-17 in and out of Afghanistan for 7 years now with four beefy engines and 3 or four sets of eyes up front, I'm not sure you could convince me to do it in a CRJ with just one other guy in the cockpit. Kabul is a zoo. Herat... same. Mazar, sure, just don't hit the ridge. The hostile fire part isn't what would bother me. It's literally everything else about the airspace. That and the -200 performance on a hot day around some of those 20000 MSL peaks... meh. Maybe for someone younger and more adventurous.
I'll keep putting up and down the east coast in my RJ and be quite content.
I'll keep putting up and down the east coast in my RJ and be quite content.
I've personally enjoyed my time here in Afghan. Granted I live on a US Base, not a "safe house" in Kabul. Like somebody already mentioned, the threat really isn't in the air, its on the ground, ie, rockets, morters, rpg's, suicide bombs, vbieds, ect. When a 107mm rocket hits about 25 yards from where you're sleeping and knocks you out of bed, you start thinking, what the hell am I doing here!!??
As far as the infrastructure, it sucks. Within radar coverage, its ok. Out of it, strictly position reporting with barely readable coms. Know the terrain. In the Dash its nice because we can get down lower than than the heavies, enabling us to know the valleys and mountains a little better.
In all honesty, this RJ gig isn't a bad deal for the right person. The commute to and from work sucks (might get blown up) but other than that, its a challenging flying environment, ICAO/international experience, and a chance to experience a different culture.
03-11-2014, 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TonyWilliams
Yes, I suspect there will be folks show interest who, like myself, enjoy exploring the world.
For folks who are content doing six legs a day, stuck in the right seat at a low paying USA "regional", they should just keep on doing that. It's absolutely an easy choice for many. We wouldn't even want somebody to come here and complain all the time. Save that for this forum and your regional crew lounge.
Yes, the airline is a start up, and we will be relocating our two CRJ-200's from Dubai to Kabul in the next few weeks.
We currently have four captains and three FO's. I'm loathe to suggest that we are getting "bigger iron", but I will say that the immediate plan is to add three Boeing 737's (on a separate AOC) and possibly several CRJ-900's.
It's hard to say how long the CRJ-200's will be around, but they will accomplish the goal of launching the airline. They are former Lufthansa birds with dual IRS, dual FMS, HUD and HF. They have been painted, both gone through extensive A checks in Dubai, and hopefully will be ready soon.
Sim training is likely to be in Minneapolis, Toronto, Copenhagen or a remote possibility of Kuala Lumpur.
On your duty rest days (during the 21 days of duty), you're welcome to buy a $175 one-way ticket to Dubai and relax. Dubai is about 3.5 hours away. The company doesn't pay for that, any more than a USA regional does. The company main offices are near Dubai.
There is a flight allowance, so you can book your own tickets home for rotations. You can fly First Class, or "no class". It's up to you.
Again, for all the "sky is falling" posts, I think the message is loud and clear. This isn't a job for everybody, but it could be a rewarding opportunity for a rare few.
For folks who are content doing six legs a day, stuck in the right seat at a low paying USA "regional", they should just keep on doing that. It's absolutely an easy choice for many. We wouldn't even want somebody to come here and complain all the time. Save that for this forum and your regional crew lounge.
Yes, the airline is a start up, and we will be relocating our two CRJ-200's from Dubai to Kabul in the next few weeks.
We currently have four captains and three FO's. I'm loathe to suggest that we are getting "bigger iron", but I will say that the immediate plan is to add three Boeing 737's (on a separate AOC) and possibly several CRJ-900's.
It's hard to say how long the CRJ-200's will be around, but they will accomplish the goal of launching the airline. They are former Lufthansa birds with dual IRS, dual FMS, HUD and HF. They have been painted, both gone through extensive A checks in Dubai, and hopefully will be ready soon.
Sim training is likely to be in Minneapolis, Toronto, Copenhagen or a remote possibility of Kuala Lumpur.
On your duty rest days (during the 21 days of duty), you're welcome to buy a $175 one-way ticket to Dubai and relax. Dubai is about 3.5 hours away. The company doesn't pay for that, any more than a USA regional does. The company main offices are near Dubai.
There is a flight allowance, so you can book your own tickets home for rotations. You can fly First Class, or "no class". It's up to you.
Again, for all the "sky is falling" posts, I think the message is loud and clear. This isn't a job for everybody, but it could be a rewarding opportunity for a rare few.
03-11-2014, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by stamps
.... That and the -200 performance on a hot day around some of those 20000 MSL peaks... meh. Maybe for someone younger and more adventurous. I'll keep putting up and down the east coast in my RJ and be quite content.
Originally, they were going to be replaced by April with Airbus A320's. Then "supplemented" with three B737's. Lots of plans, but the only firm thing today is the two airplanes we have.
03-11-2014, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by wrxpilot
I'd consider it for the right price, but you still haven't said what the pay is.
I'll just say that the pay is a whole lot more than you're likely making at a USA regional, and far less than you'll be make flying a wide body at Emirates.
As to safety, I did stay in a crew hotel in Atlanta where a gunman came in the lobby and started blasting away. And that's not the only scary overnight I've been on in the USA. Anybody for a trip to downtown Detroit?
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