TonyWilliams

It's not a game and not for the faint of heart. Thanks for pointing that out. More specific to this job, last year, Safi Airlines had an entire crew murdered in the crew bus right in Kabul.

Earlier this month, gunmen shot and killed a Swedish journalist in broad daylight. In January, a bomb and gun attack by the Taliban on a restaurant in Kabul killed 21 people, most of them foreigners.

10 June 2013, a group of Taliban attacked at the Kabul airport and were killed by Afghan military.

18 September 2012, KABUL — Twelve people were killed near Kabul’s airport when a suicide car bomber rammed into a minivan carrying foreign air-charter workers, Afghan officials said. A Pakistan-based militant group said it carried out the attack to avenge a YouTube video that defames the Muslim prophet Muhammad.

On 24 November 2010 an EU ban barring all Afghan carriers from flying into Europe was put in place.

PILOTGUY

You wouldn't, so why even bother to post. Besides, YOU should be able to deduce that the pay is nowhere near 175k.

WstCstCmtr

I was trying to point out to the guys looking at Afghanistan that just because it's 1.5 or 2 times what they make at a regional it's still substandard for an expat pilot.

All they're doing is bringing the US mindset to the expat world.

phoenix 23684

Why are you limiting this to only CRJ-200 rated with time individuals? I've been flying in Afghanistan for the past 6 years and I think getting guys with no military background or experience flying in that AOR a foolish thing. Don't believe me, talk to L3 which only hired BE-300 typed guys at first (corporate pilots with no knowledge but excited about the pay) and quickly changed gears and now they are doing great because they hired first and foremost experienced people and provide the type training.

You really want to target people who have been flying in that AOR and/or have been in the military dealing with those types of living conditions.

I can also tell you that things will get extremely sketchy once the US/coalition pulls out at the end of the year, watch all the local Afghans who are fleeing right now as they know the Taliban will re-claim the region. Kandahar already looks like a ghost town compared to last year.

I would caution anyone in the states with CRJ-200 experience, with little to no military/combat time that the money is not worth it if you have no idea what you are getting yourself into.

Since you're not willing to state pay, I will say this. You can get a job flying for Dynamic/L3/Avenge/Blackwater, etc for around 15-20k per month and you live in a military base.

The Juice

Just read this entire thread..so funny.

Tony Williams, never had anything against you man, but you do yourself a disservice to try and dress Afghanistan up as anything but what it is, very dangerous. The term "don't BS and BS'er" comes to mind. You may be new to Afghanistan living/ Flying but there are many of us on here who have lived and worked over there doing contract/military work. Notice what the common theme is amongst all those with experience is? Yeah, astounding "NOs!"

I used to work with a lot of people over in Afghanistan that looked at it as an exciting "summer camp," until their first up close rocket attack. Attitudes changed.

Also, I noticed those photos you took were in winter. Winter seems so peaceful over there, doesn't it? Wait until the fighting season and spring offensive starts up again. For those who have applied, these are terms you should know about before taking this job.

Contractor compounds are very dangerous in Kabul and are always getting hit. Before I came back from my final trip, Green Village was hit by suicide bombers. You think that is going to get better as US Troops pull out?

Softpayman

Tony Williams just last page listed multiple attacks in Kabul, I don't think he's sugar coating anything.

Not for everyone but could be a good opportunity for the right person.

TonyWilliams

Yes, I'm new to Afghanistan, but not dangerous areas of the world, including Baghdad.

I always love the attitude of "my danger is so much more real / special / scary, etc than "your" danger".

My ass is currently in Kabul, and I physically heard the gunshots from the punks who shot up the Serena Hotel the other night. I sure as hell never sugar coated this ****.

Spare me your speech and your "BS".




Shopping, Camp Victory, Iraq

Tanker-driver

Gotta love it when you're in a place dangerous enough to have to sling your M-4, yet the USAF makes you wear highly conspicuous/reflective PT gear.

F224

Actually, it's an M16A2, not an M4. The US requires all servicemen in theater to keep their weapons and one loaded magazine with them at all times.

Chupacabras

So about 90-100k to risk being blown up on the way to work and live in a hostile country???? I can't believe you would compare Detroit to Afghanistan-as a Detroit based pilot i think ur crazy.

I will pass!