Originally Posted by FLowpayFO
(Post 1620360)
What about a US Regional FO trying to get some Boeing or Airbus time to eventually get on somewhere flying B777, A380's, Etc?
Can you go from 737 to 777 FO as an expat? Thanks for the insight. If the Lira wasn't dropping it would be a good place, but with the unpredictability of the country as of late, and the company always changing their Expat FO upgrade requirements I see it more as a stepping stone to go to another company in the region. |
Originally Posted by seattlepilot
(Post 1621770)
All the parties that are interested, I am not going and I am Turkish .. Turkish is hurting big time now, but any downturn in economy or any political instability will make your contract void.
I know DL , UA, etc. are not hiring like crazy but a lot of the things that we are used to here in US don't exist there: - No union protection - No bidding (Yeah you bid for your schedule but they can change at at a whim) - About 100 hours flown in summer time every month. (According to the Turkish rules that can be extended to 110 hours) - Most connected guys (ex military or Erdogan supporters) get the good schedules. Turkey is a beautiful country, food is awesome, girls that are not covered are pretty, but having 8-9 days off a month will not give you enough time to enjoy all that.. |
Originally Posted by seattlepilot
(Post 1621770)
All the parties that are interested, I am not going and I am Turkish .. Turkish is hurting big time now, but any downturn in economy or any political instability will make your contract void.
I know DL , UA, etc. are not hiring like crazy but a lot of the things that we are used to here in US don't exist there: - No union protection - No bidding (Yeah you bid for your schedule but they can change at at a whim) - About 100 hours flown in summer time every month. (According to the Turkish rules that can be extended to 110 hours) - Most connected guys (ex military or Erdogan supporters) get the good schedules. Turkey is a beautiful country, food is awesome, girls that are not covered are pretty, but having 8-9 days off a month will not give you enough time to enjoy all that.. - current upgrade 7 years - off days a month 8-10 varying on quality of trips - bid 40% at base, so my schedule is hit or miss. 117 made it worse - no union - schedule can change on a whim. It's called flow through or being shoved by PBS. - crj type. No value whatsoever - and we all know one hiccup in the economy can tank airlines. History is our best reminder. I think Turkish can be be a great stepping stone. Type and time on the Boeing makes a difference. |
Originally Posted by olympic
(Post 1621866)
Have a few buddies who sat right seat on the 320 for less than a year and are now flying right seat on the 330. Much better schedule, almost commuting. 8-10 days off straight per month maybe more if you fly a lot of the longer flights, USA/JAPAN etc. The same occurs for 737 to 777, not sure how long it takes though.
If the Lira wasn't dropping it would be a good place, but with the unpredictability of the country as of late, and the company always changing their Expat FO upgrade requirements I see it more as a stepping stone to go to another company in the region. Are you referring to Turkish? |
Olympic, thanks for that. I'm thinking it would be a great stepping stone towards a good contract somewhere and mostly a fun adventure.
CritialMach, same bOOat as you and watching my schedule and QOL slip away while the company does as it pleases. This could be a great opportunity to spice up the resume. I'm attending the LAX roadshow and will give you guys an update of what they're presenting. |
Originally Posted by FLowpayFO
(Post 1622046)
Olympic, thanks for that. I'm thinking it would be a great stepping stone towards a good contract somewhere and mostly a fun adventure.
CritialMach, same bOOat as you and watching my schedule and QOL slip away while the company does as it pleases. This could be a great opportunity to spice up the resume. I'm attending the LAX roadshow and will give you guys an update of what they're presenting. |
Originally Posted by CriticalMach
(Post 1621974)
Are you referring to Turkish?
Originally Posted by FLowpayFO
(Post 1622046)
Olympic, thanks for that. I'm thinking it would be a great stepping stone towards a good contract somewhere and mostly a fun adventure.
CritialMach, same bOOat as you and watching my schedule and QOL slip away while the company does as it pleases. This could be a great opportunity to spice up the resume. I'm attending the LAX roadshow and will give you guys an update of what they're presenting. |
Look boys, there's no golden opportunity abroad that will satisfy 100%.
I never imagined myself a mercenary pilot living abroad, but an opportunity arose, and furlough forced my hand. Overall it has been good for me, but not without issue. Some of you here are in an untenable position in the states, or just plain ready for something new. It could mean more money, the chance into narrow/wide body flying, and maybe see a bit more of the world and learn a thing or two. I can't comment about Turkish, well nothing that I would speak authoritatively on anyway, but I will tell you young guys that life's an adventure, and most of the headway i've made in this industry has come from rolling the dice. A move like this is never an easy decision, but you never know where it could lead. Good luck and CYA. |
Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght
(Post 1622378)
Look boys, there's no golden opportunity abroad that will satisfy 100%.
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What do they mean by "(written warning) for lack of discipline" in the requirements? For example, many US regionals issue warning letters in employee HR files for sick calls (and a variety of other non-PRIA-able things).
Will a written letter in an employee HR file for something like an attendance policy be an issue? Or if a person's PRIA record is "clean as a whistle" will they be good? Essentially what I'm asking is--are they just pulling a PRIA for US pilots or is a simple phone call to former employers or what? Thanks |
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