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MiLa 04-18-2014 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by FLowpayFO (Post 1625043)
Attended the LAX Roadshow.

Very professional and nice group of people. They had a 1.5 hr presentation on what they can offer and had a one presenter talking through a slide show, and three people (2 HR, 1 line pilot) taking questions afterwards.

It's evident the company is trying to move forward and demonstrate huge ambitions in competing with the ME3. An example is they state they are a 4 star airline, soon to become a 5 star airline. So with this in mind I feel they are trying to attract good applicants that want to stick around for the long term.

This is not a contract, this is a permanent position that gets you on the seniority list and you will become a member of the union. Once you get on a wide body it becomes a commutable roster if you wish, meaning enough days off in between pairings to fly home. (Two ID90's per month with options to sit in Flight Attendant jumpseats as a last resort, thats gonna hurt from the states though, haha)

For FAA and ICAO guys, you will receive a validation on your license. This makes me question if you will have to do a EASA conversion eventually down the road. Either way, if you are making good money, enjoy the job, I suppose this would be a minor hurdle in the grand scheme.

Non-Type Rated guys will get a bond, though not official, it was looking to be around €20,000 over 3 year period deducted monthly.

Invited to attend assessment in Istanbul.

Thanks for the great info. I was also planning to attend the roadshow but had a scheduling conflict. Did they give you an idea for the timeframe to get to the wide bodies?

CrakPipeOvrheat 04-18-2014 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by MiLa (Post 1625458)
Quote:





Originally Posted by FLowpayFO


Attended the LAX Roadshow.

Very professional and nice group of people. They had a 1.5 hr presentation on what they can offer and had a one presenter talking through a slide show, and three people (2 HR, 1 line pilot) taking questions afterwards.

It's evident the company is trying to move forward and demonstrate huge ambitions in competing with the ME3. An example is they state they are a 4 star airline, soon to become a 5 star airline. So with this in mind I feel they are trying to attract good applicants that want to stick around for the long term.

This is not a contract, this is a permanent position that gets you on the seniority list and you will become a member of the union. Once you get on a wide body it becomes a commutable roster if you wish, meaning enough days off in between pairings to fly home. (Two ID90's per month with options to sit in Flight Attendant jumpseats as a last resort, thats gonna hurt from the states though, haha)

For FAA and ICAO guys, you will receive a validation on your license. This makes me question if you will have to do a EASA conversion eventually down the road. Either way, if you are making good money, enjoy the job, I suppose this would be a minor hurdle in the grand scheme.

Non-Type Rated guys will get a bond, though not official, it was looking to be around €20,000 over 3 year period deducted monthly.

Invited to attend assessment in Istanbul.




Thanks for the great info. I was also planning to attend the roadshow but had a scheduling conflict. Did they give you an idea for the timeframe to get to the wide bodies?

Look at the fleet count and orders. There will be way more A320/b737's than wide bodies. There aren't that many wide bodies at Turkish.

travelair 04-18-2014 11:12 AM

Requirements
 
Turkish will not take you if you are over 45 or have not flown 6 months of the last 12 on acceptable type. It will be nice when the tables turn on the foreign airlines with their ridiculous requirements.

CriticalMach 04-18-2014 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by FLowpayFO (Post 1625043)
Attended the LAX Roadshow.

Very professional and nice group of people. They had a 1.5 hr presentation on what they can offer and had a one presenter talking through a slide show, and three people (2 HR, 1 line pilot) taking questions afterwards.

It's evident the company is trying to move forward and demonstrate huge ambitions in competing with the ME3. An example is they state they are a 4 star airline, soon to become a 5 star airline. So with this in mind I feel they are trying to attract good applicants that want to stick around for the long term.

This is not a contract, this is a permanent position that gets you on the seniority list and you will become a member of the union. Once you get on a wide body it becomes a commutable roster if you wish, meaning enough days off in between pairings to fly home. (Two ID90's per month with options to sit in Flight Attendant jumpseats as a last resort, thats gonna hurt from the states though, haha)

For FAA and ICAO guys, you will receive a validation on your license. This makes me question if you will have to do a EASA conversion eventually down the road. Either way, if you are making good money, enjoy the job, I suppose this would be a minor hurdle in the grand scheme.

Non-Type Rated guys will get a bond, though not official, it was looking to be around €20,000 over 3 year period deducted monthly.

Invited to attend assessment in Istanbul.


Thanks for the info sir. Kindly check your pm.

CriticalMach 04-18-2014 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by olympic (Post 1621866)
Have a few buddies who sat right seat on the 320 for less than a year and are now flying right seat on the 330. Much better schedule, almost commuting. 8-10 days off straight per month maybe more if you fly a lot of the longer flights, USA/JAPAN etc. The same occurs for 737 to 777, not sure how long it takes though.

If the Lira wasn't dropping it would be a good place, but with the unpredictability of the country as of late, and the company always changing their Expat FO upgrade requirements I see it more as a stepping stone to go to another company in the region.


Olympic, kindly check your pm.

Starlifter 04-18-2014 01:28 PM

Requirements
 

Originally Posted by travelair (Post 1625630)
Turkish will not take you if you are over 45 or have not flown 6 months of the last 12 on acceptable type. It will be nice when the tables turn on the foreign airlines with their ridiculous requirements.

Yes, this is what brought me back to the US. Have the EASA ATP, EASA type, plenty of hours and right to live and work in Europe...but not the youth!

Lifter

gearcrankr 04-18-2014 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by Starlifter (Post 1625714)
Yes, this is what brought me back to the US. Have the EASA ATP, EASA type, plenty of hours and right to live and work in Europe...but not the youth!

Lifter

Dont sweat it. You will really enjoy SCA.

Starlifter 04-18-2014 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by gearcrankr (Post 1625781)
Dont sweat it. You will really enjoy SCA.

Thanks brother, already enjoying it! Fantastic to see FOs with gray hair!

outaluckagain 04-18-2014 08:49 PM

Age
 

Originally Posted by travelair (Post 1625630)
Turkish will not take you if you are over 45 or have not flown 6 months of the last 12 on acceptable type. It will be nice when the tables turn on the foreign airlines with their ridiculous requirements.


Absolutely rediculous to think of it. 45 is nothing in this day and age.

seattlepilot 04-19-2014 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by SpeedTaped (Post 1625377)
Quote:





Originally Posted by FLowpayFO


Attended the LAX Roadshow.

Very professional and nice group of people. They had a 1.5 hr presentation on what they can offer and had a one presenter talking through a slide show, and three people (2 HR, 1 line pilot) taking questions afterwards.

It's evident the company is trying to move forward and demonstrate huge ambitions in competing with the ME3. An example is they state they are a 4 star airline, soon to become a 5 star airline. So with this in mind I feel they are trying to attract good applicants that want to stick around for the long term.

This is not a contract, this is a permanent position that gets you on the seniority list and you will become a member of the union. Once you get on a wide body it becomes a commutable roster if you wish, meaning enough days off in between pairings to fly home. (Two ID90's per month with options to sit in Flight Attendant jumpseats as a last resort, thats gonna hurt from the states though, haha)

For FAA and ICAO guys, you will receive a validation on your license. This makes me question if you will have to do a EASA conversion eventually down the road. Either way, if you are making good money, enjoy the job, I suppose this would be a minor hurdle in the grand scheme.

Non-Type Rated guys will get a bond, though not official, it was looking to be around €20,000 over 3 year period deducted monthly.

Invited to attend assessment in Istanbul.




Thanks for the good info. Seniority List and Union Protection sound like a step forward. Any word if they will place candidates directly on the wide body?

Don't be fooled by seniority list and especially the union gimmicks. There is no unity and no active union in Turkish. Last year 350 people that were joined in the strike were fired through text messages.

They fire people at will with the slightest mistake like landing unstable. ( if you land 1100 fpm vs 1000) you are considered "yabanci"

Just because you are on seniority list doesn't mean that you will not be let go out of seniority. ( there is no furlough in turkey. )

The union is made up of ex military pilots that collect your money and have some time with that. No programs like ASAP or HIMS exist.

Knowing what you are getting into will make you happier down the road.

As far as 45 rule is concerned it is stupid I know, also if you are stuck in a type after 50 , say 320, you cannot change aircraft type any more. So wide body might go to a junior pilot.

Go knowing all these...


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