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Ive been invited to the assesment on the 28th. Pm me if you are going to be there too.
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Originally Posted by seattlepilot
(Post 1626135)
Don't be fooled by seniority list and especially the union gimmicks. There is no unity and no active union in Turkish. Last year 350 people that were joined in the strike were fired through text messages.
They fire people at will with the slightest mistake like landing unstable. ( if you land 1100 fpm vs 1000) you are considered "yabanci" Just because you are on seniority list doesn't mean that you will not be let go out of seniority. ( there is no furlough in turkey. ) The union is made up of ex military pilots that collect your money and have some time with that. No programs like ASAP or HIMS exist. Knowing what you are getting into will make you happier down the road. As far as 45 rule is concerned it is stupid I know, also if you are stuck in a type after 50 , say 320, you cannot change aircraft type any more. So wide body might go to a junior pilot. Go knowing all these... Your next flight may be your last flight with a departure from that country within 24 hours. Ahhh the glorious exotic life of the expat. Gotta say... after more than 20 years living in many countries... I have no regret leaving my last major carrier in 1991. |
Originally Posted by Starlifter
(Post 1625714)
Yes, this is what brought me back to the US. Have the EASA ATP, EASA type, plenty of hours and right to live and work in Europe...but not the youth!
Lifter Where you been bro??? Last time I saw you was in Greece in 2009??? Haha .. hope all is well! |
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Originally Posted by seattlepilot
(Post 1626135)
Don't be fooled by seniority list and especially the union gimmicks. There is no unity and no active union in Turkish. Last year 350 people that were joined in the strike were fired through text messages.
They fire people at will with the slightest mistake like landing unstable. ( if you land 1100 fpm vs 1000) you are considered "yabanci" Just because you are on seniority list doesn't mean that you will not be let go out of seniority. ( there is no furlough in turkey. ) The union is made up of ex military pilots that collect your money and have some time with that. No programs like ASAP or HIMS exist. Knowing what you are getting into will make you happier down the road. As far as 45 rule is concerned it is stupid I know, also if you are stuck in a type after 50 , say 320, you cannot change aircraft type any more. So wide body might go to a junior pilot. Go knowing all these... |
Originally Posted by outaluckagain
(Post 1626240)
Can't see why people would want this. Seems more for an older pilot who may think he has lost his shot at US majors, and this may be a way to make up for it. There is just to much age descrimination to justify this though. The 45 limit and the over 50 rule and all.
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Originally Posted by outaluckagain
(Post 1626240)
...Seems more for an older pilot who may think he has lost his shot at US majors, and this may be a way to make up for it. There is just to much age descrimination to justify this though...
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Originally Posted by F15andMD11
(Post 1626794)
Are you saying there is too much discrimination at the US carriers or the foreign ones? There is certainly discrimination going on at the US carriers. If you're over 50 what are you going to do? A US charter company recently closed its doors. ALL of the pilots that remained were in their late 40s to late 50s. They are all out of a job now. What are they going to do? Who will hire them? No one will! The majors are hiring "kids" these days. Both regional flows and young military guys. While I think its great that the young military guys are getting the call, whats the older pilot to do? Now he can't get on with Turkish or Korean because of the age 45 rule. Rhetorical question, you're a 55yo pilot and you just lost your job. Where will you go? Lets also throw in your BMI is over 30, which is the case for many of these older pilots. Maybe there is a company in Africa that will take you.:mad:
Or regional airline in US. I am sure they're okay with $22/hr pay. |
Originally Posted by F15andMD11
(Post 1626794)
Are you saying there is too much discrimination at the US carriers or the foreign ones? There is certainly discrimination going on at the US carriers. If you're over 50 what are you going to do? A US charter company recently closed its doors. ALL of the pilots that remained were in their late 40s to late 50s. They are all out of a job now. What are they going to do? Who will hire them? No one will! The majors are hiring "kids" these days. Both regional flows and young military guys. While I think its great that the young military guys are getting the call, whats the older pilot to do? Now he can't get on with Turkish or Korean because of the age 45 rule. Rhetorical question, you're a 55yo pilot and you just lost your job. Where will you go? Lets also throw in your BMI is over 30, which is the case for many of these older pilots. Maybe there is a company in Africa that will take you.:mad:
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Originally Posted by F15andMD11
(Post 1626794)
Are you saying there is too much discrimination at the US carriers or the foreign ones? There is certainly discrimination going on at the US carriers. If you're over 50 what are you going to do? A US charter company recently closed its doors. ALL of the pilots that remained were in their late 40s to late 50s. They are all out of a job now. What are they going to do? Who will hire them? No one will! The majors are hiring "kids" these days. Both regional flows and young military guys. While I think its great that the young military guys are getting the call, whats the older pilot to do? Now he can't get on with Turkish or Korean because of the age 45 rule. Rhetorical question, you're a 55yo pilot and you just lost your job. Where will you go? Lets also throw in your BMI is over 30, which is the case for many of these older pilots. Maybe there is a company in Africa that will take you.:mad:
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Age Issue
Originally Posted by The Dominican
(Post 1626667)
How many job offers are you getting:rolleyes: all you see on the blogosphere is talk about everybody and their mother will be working for the majors soon, but what I hear from my friends stuck in regional hell is that the calls for interviews are few and far in between, and out of those called for interview just a few get the nod...!
I am actually referring to the age issue at the foreign carriers. It doesn't seem like there would be all that many takers for this unless these were people who lost their shot at majors. I allready know what you are referring to here with people at regionals not getting calls. I am thinking that the regional guys that are younger would not really want to pack it up and move to Turkey. Maybe so though. The people that I think will fit into this are the older people, say over 45 who allready know they will not make the majors. |
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