Are You An A320 Senior First Officer?
#22
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No dog in this discussion but let me throw this out. As a A330 CA for a major US Air Line (hint) most of my flights were over 8 hours. It was crewed with me and 2 type rated FO's. I was the only one to sign the release; we didn't sign the logbook. When I would look at my company flight log, it would show the entire fight time under total time but PIC would stop at 8 hrs. When queried, I was told that since I could not be in the seat for more than 8 hours that was all they could credit me as PIC. So who got the rest of the time? This is probably just a company policy
#23
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No dog in this discussion but let me throw this out. As a A330 CA for a major US Air Line (hint) most of my flights were over 8 hours. It was crewed with me and 2 type rated FO's. I was the only one to sign the release; we didn't sign the logbook. When I would look at my company flight log, it would show the entire fight time under total time but PIC would stop at 8 hrs. When queried, I was told that since I could not be in the seat for more than 8 hours that was all they could credit me as PIC. So who got the rest of the time? This is probably just a company policy
61.51(d)(2) If rated to act as pilot in command of the aircraft, an airline transport pilot may log all flight time while acting as pilot in command of an operation requiring an airline transport pilot certificate.
You could be sitting on the toilet and logging PIC as far as the FAA is concerned if you are acting as PIC as defined under part 1 sec 1.1.
Let's all discuss 250kts under 10,000 feet next!
#24
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Log the time the way you can legally log the time.
If you need to apply to a company, pay attention to their definition and requirements to count hours as PIC, and adjust your resume and application accordingly. Do not adjust your logbook, explain yourself. They know.
It worked for me.
As many as said, logging PIC and acting as PIC, two different things.
If you need to apply to a company, pay attention to their definition and requirements to count hours as PIC, and adjust your resume and application accordingly. Do not adjust your logbook, explain yourself. They know.
It worked for me.
As many as said, logging PIC and acting as PIC, two different things.
#25
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 178
Log the time the way you can legally log the time.
If you need to apply to a company, pay attention to their definition and requirements to count hours as PIC, and adjust your resume and application accordingly. Do not adjust your logbook, explain yourself. They know.
It worked for me.
As many as said, logging PIC and acting as PIC, two different things.
If you need to apply to a company, pay attention to their definition and requirements to count hours as PIC, and adjust your resume and application accordingly. Do not adjust your logbook, explain yourself. They know.
It worked for me.
As many as said, logging PIC and acting as PIC, two different things.
#27
But the Chinese airlines have no way of knowing. Seriously, I know of three guys flying in China who were hired based upon their legally logging PIC even though they were not the official PIC. They all had someone who was wiling to vouch for them. No U.S. airline is going to provide records or release any information to a Chinese airline. They are not required to do so, PRIA only requires records to be released to U.S. airlines, and providing them to foreign carriers exposes the U.S. airline to all sorts of legal liability. So as long as you have the PIC type rating which the FAA will vouch for, someone who can seem official willing to vouch for you, and a decent amount of actual time on the airplane so you can be competent in the sim test, there is virtually zero way a Chinese airline will know whether you PIC time is actually as PIC or just logged as PIC as sole manipulator of the controls.
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