fly dubai assessment prep
03-21-2016 | 10:43 PM
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Ummm, they were not hiring during that period. They stopped hiring in early 1990. They did not hire again until 1998.
Plus two of those crashes were not the fault of the airline or the pilots ( USAir 427 rudder hardover and USAir 1493 landed on top of while holding in position at LAX ).
The other 3 were and the airline did need a serious safety adjustment that was made in the mid to late -90s. Just like Delta needed in the mid to late 80s after their series of accidents and incidents.
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Plus two of those crashes were not the fault of the airline or the pilots ( USAir 427 rudder hardover and USAir 1493 landed on top of while holding in position at LAX ).
The other 3 were and the airline did need a serious safety adjustment that was made in the mid to late -90s. Just like Delta needed in the mid to late 80s after their series of accidents and incidents.
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03-22-2016 | 01:22 AM
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I understood the point and in some cases I might agree, but with foreign airlines it would certainly make one want to look more closely at what they might be getting into. In this case: is chronic fatigue an issue with multiple night turns every month? ; Is there pressure from management not to divert so that they can complete the turn within the duty time limits?
Depending on the answer to those questions and others it could make it a place to be avoided.
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03-22-2016 | 04:01 AM
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Counting the fact that we know absolutely nothing about Fly Dubai's accident...., isn't it premature to be speculating that fatigue or company culture or whatever is a reason to avoid them as an employment source?
03-22-2016 | 04:24 PM
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I don't think it is Dom.
Fatigue can result in bad decision making. Outside pressure can cause bad decisions as well.
Did they hold for two hours in the hopes that they would be able to "get in" and then be able to get back to Dubai within their duty time limit versus making a smarter decision to divert. Diverting would cause cancellation of the return sector; big hassle getting hotel rooms for the crew; etc. Does the company make that a very difficult decision for the crew to make? Do they pressure them to think about the commercial implications of a diversion over the safety implications of trying to "get in"?
Regardless as to the exact cause of the accident, should they have even been attempting that second approach?
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03-22-2016 | 06:10 PM
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I admire your ability to read minds from beyond the grave...., not even Teresa Caputo claims to read the minds of the spirits.
Since I don't have those powers, I'll wait until we have some concrete evidence before I start second guessing professional pilots that just flew west.
Since I don't have those powers, I'll wait until we have some concrete evidence before I start second guessing professional pilots that just flew west.
03-22-2016 | 09:24 PM
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Yep... Working conditions in that part of the world are not the best...
But lets face the facts... The internet contains a wealth of information for prospective employees to make an educated decision regarding operations, pay, and QOL. Nobody is holding a gun to anybody's to take a job at a carrier which promotes fear. Perhaps it would be better world if more crewmembers had deeper respect for the profession, and themselves and boycotting such tyrannical operators.
Greater stress on the value of safety, for themselves, fellow crewmembers, and passengers before the completion of the mission.
Condolences to the families of the deceased.
But lets face the facts... The internet contains a wealth of information for prospective employees to make an educated decision regarding operations, pay, and QOL. Nobody is holding a gun to anybody's to take a job at a carrier which promotes fear. Perhaps it would be better world if more crewmembers had deeper respect for the profession, and themselves and boycotting such tyrannical operators.
Greater stress on the value of safety, for themselves, fellow crewmembers, and passengers before the completion of the mission.
Condolences to the families of the deceased.
03-23-2016 | 05:15 AM
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First of all, we should not be basing a career in a airline over its accident history or crashes. Its a sad day in aviation that Fly Dubai has gone through this tragedy yesterday, and there not the only carrier that has or will go through these tragic experiences. If a carrier in the west goes down, God for bid, it doesn't make them a unsafe or bad airline to work for. There are airlines with crashes that are still flying today here in the USA and all over the world.
Have fun storming the castle......
https://www.rt.com/news/336821-fatigue-cause-flydubai-pilot/
03-24-2016 | 09:19 AM
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I have gotten an invitation to attend one of the CTC assessments in Miami. Before I make a payment and reserve my slot, would like to request if anyone can share or pm me the gouge for the interview and how to prep for this as I have never been through a interview process like this. I am regional FO in the US flying for a united express carrier. Thank you.
03-25-2016 | 02:20 AM
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From: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Here ya go, ILS.
Have fun storming the castle......
https://www.rt.com/news/336821-fatig...lydubai-pilot/
Have fun storming the castle......
https://www.rt.com/news/336821-fatig...lydubai-pilot/
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