Emirates
08-03-2016, 08:30 AM
#22
Don't say Guppy
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Originally Posted by The Dominican
Just what I said a couple of months ago that a lot of folks said it would never happen...., what they won't ever allow to happen is to start parking airplanes
The word from a friend in the training department is that the failure rates are increasing as well so only to lower the requirements is not going to do if people fail the training...., eventually they will HAVE to offer commuting contracts!
The word from a friend in the training department is that the failure rates are increasing as well so only to lower the requirements is not going to do if people fail the training...., eventually they will HAVE to offer commuting contracts!
I am glad to hear everyone got off the jet that had the bad day. It will be interesting to hear what happened. A triple is a hard jet to crash.
08-03-2016, 08:38 AM
#23
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: Early Retiree SWA
Posts: 354
Probe....
Maybe not as many as you'd think. You realise they've had to DRASTICALLY reduce their qual mins to get guys to fly for them? All you need if 1500 hours and some turbo prop time. Not belittling those with that qualification but compared to who they could get interest from just a year or two ago is VASTLY different. Social media as a stronger influence nowadays. Thank God no pax or crew were killed. Apparently 1 firefighter died during the rescue operation. RIP.
I think most here know how I feel about this organisation... Slave Ship Airlines. You'll be amazed most likely at the rosters as this info comes out... just like it did at the FlyDubai accident recently.
Kap
Maybe not as many as you'd think. You realise they've had to DRASTICALLY reduce their qual mins to get guys to fly for them? All you need if 1500 hours and some turbo prop time. Not belittling those with that qualification but compared to who they could get interest from just a year or two ago is VASTLY different. Social media as a stronger influence nowadays. Thank God no pax or crew were killed. Apparently 1 firefighter died during the rescue operation. RIP.
I think most here know how I feel about this organisation... Slave Ship Airlines. You'll be amazed most likely at the rosters as this info comes out... just like it did at the FlyDubai accident recently.
Kap
08-03-2016, 10:32 AM
#24
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Joined APC: Jan 2016
Posts: 414
Another thing to consider for those unfamiliar with Emirates operations.
This was a turn around flight that was scheduled to leave DXB at 0250, which means a pick up time from home at 0035. I haven't seen the flight plan but I can almost guarantee the flights were scheduled for more than 8hrs of block time in a 10+hour FDP. This operation wouldn't be legal under FAR117 and most likely wasn't legal under GCAA regulations. This is where Emirates applies their special "variations" which essentially allows them to "legally" extend you before the trip even begins. Emirates flies many of these types of flights.
I'll be interested to learn what the rosters looked like for the pilots invoked, since many pilots are being scheduled for 100+ block hours and only 8-9 days off each month.
Major Kudos for all the crew in conducting a successful evacuation after such a grueling operation!
This was a turn around flight that was scheduled to leave DXB at 0250, which means a pick up time from home at 0035. I haven't seen the flight plan but I can almost guarantee the flights were scheduled for more than 8hrs of block time in a 10+hour FDP. This operation wouldn't be legal under FAR117 and most likely wasn't legal under GCAA regulations. This is where Emirates applies their special "variations" which essentially allows them to "legally" extend you before the trip even begins. Emirates flies many of these types of flights.
I'll be interested to learn what the rosters looked like for the pilots invoked, since many pilots are being scheduled for 100+ block hours and only 8-9 days off each month.
Major Kudos for all the crew in conducting a successful evacuation after such a grueling operation!
08-03-2016, 01:26 PM
#26
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Joined APC: Nov 2005
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Posts: 736
Originally Posted by SEPfield
Another thing to consider for those unfamiliar with Emirates operations.
This was a turn around flight that was scheduled to leave DXB at 0250, which means a pick up time from home at 0035. I haven't seen the flight plan but I can almost guarantee the flights were scheduled for more than 8hrs of block time in a 10+hour FDP. This operation wouldn't be legal under FAR117 and most likely wasn't legal under GCAA regulations. This is where Emirates applies their special "variations" which essentially allows them to "legally" extend you before the trip even begins. Emirates flies many of these types of flights.
I'll be interested to learn what the rosters looked like for the pilots invoked, since many pilots are being scheduled for 100+ block hours and only 8-9 days off each month.
Major Kudos for all the crew in conducting a successful evacuation after such a grueling operation!
This was a turn around flight that was scheduled to leave DXB at 0250, which means a pick up time from home at 0035. I haven't seen the flight plan but I can almost guarantee the flights were scheduled for more than 8hrs of block time in a 10+hour FDP. This operation wouldn't be legal under FAR117 and most likely wasn't legal under GCAA regulations. This is where Emirates applies their special "variations" which essentially allows them to "legally" extend you before the trip even begins. Emirates flies many of these types of flights.
I'll be interested to learn what the rosters looked like for the pilots invoked, since many pilots are being scheduled for 100+ block hours and only 8-9 days off each month.
Major Kudos for all the crew in conducting a successful evacuation after such a grueling operation!
08-04-2016, 04:17 AM
#27
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Joined APC: Aug 2008
Posts: 770
Originally Posted by SEPfield
Another thing to consider for those unfamiliar with Emirates operations.
This was a turn around flight that was scheduled to leave DXB at 0250, which means a pick up time from home at 0035. I haven't seen the flight plan but I can almost guarantee the flights were scheduled for more than 8hrs of block time in a 10+hour FDP. This operation wouldn't be legal under FAR117 and most likely wasn't legal under GCAA regulations. This is where Emirates applies their special "variations" which essentially allows them to "legally" extend you before the trip even begins. Emirates flies many of these types of flights.
This was a turn around flight that was scheduled to leave DXB at 0250, which means a pick up time from home at 0035. I haven't seen the flight plan but I can almost guarantee the flights were scheduled for more than 8hrs of block time in a 10+hour FDP. This operation wouldn't be legal under FAR117 and most likely wasn't legal under GCAA regulations. This is where Emirates applies their special "variations" which essentially allows them to "legally" extend you before the trip even begins. Emirates flies many of these types of flights.
08-04-2016, 06:44 AM
#28
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Posts: 414
Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght
It was a layover, however I've done this as a turnaround years ago on a narrow body floating along at .76 and we weren't even close to 8 hours block. A triple cruising a conservative .83 even less, with the only x-factor being DXB holding at peak arrival hours. While some variations are indeed questionable, this particular flight is bread and butter ME flying.
Perhaps you were flying this route before the continents drifted further apart. (Jk I know they are the same continent)
I stand corrected on the turn around though. I know this used to be a turn around flight when I was at EK. These types of flights are the main reason I left.
08-05-2016, 09:16 AM
#29
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Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: Early Retiree SWA
Posts: 354
Remove...
Not sure by bread and butter you mean... as in "easy" or more like, what they make the most money in.
As the above poster mentioned 8:30 block plus delays/holding etc... makes for an extreeeemely long night. And as I recall, before it was a layover, this trip was done a mere 48 hours after having come back from SFO or LAX or some such.
Did EK decide to be nice and make it a layover... or was it illegal all those years when I was doing it?
K
Not sure by bread and butter you mean... as in "easy" or more like, what they make the most money in.
As the above poster mentioned 8:30 block plus delays/holding etc... makes for an extreeeemely long night. And as I recall, before it was a layover, this trip was done a mere 48 hours after having come back from SFO or LAX or some such.
Did EK decide to be nice and make it a layover... or was it illegal all those years when I was doing it?
K
08-06-2016, 09:29 PM
#30
Are we there yet??!!
Joined APC: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,010
Originally Posted by Probe
I still think there are plenty of qualified pilots around that would want to work for Emirates.
Back in 2007-2008, when EK was doing the road show, I was the only person in the room (out of at least 100) that was offered an interview. Most likely because I was the only person that had wide body time.
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