65 and still looking
#11
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From: FE, FO, CAPT.
Unfortunately, you may have missed your chance. At 65, the windows of opportuniity are slamming shut. If your plan was post 121 employment, you would have had better prospects of flying past 65 by looking around prior to turning 60. I know it would have been tough to leave your 121 job approaching the top of the pyramid, but life is a series of choices.
I own two planes of my own and enjoy life, but flying 91K post early-retirement has been a blast. The 7-on, 7-off schedule is like part time retirement. Knowing I can leave this job at any time puts the BS into perspective. I'm only here as long as it's fun.
Good luck in your quest.
I own two planes of my own and enjoy life, but flying 91K post early-retirement has been a blast. The 7-on, 7-off schedule is like part time retirement. Knowing I can leave this job at any time puts the BS into perspective. I'm only here as long as it's fun.
Good luck in your quest.
#12
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From: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
With the cost of the Gulfstream and Bombardier types, the likelihood of a company spending that kind of dough on you is minimal.
I know a few chaps, same situation, >65 were hired with GAMA/Wheels up. They operate King Airs. ANother got on with executive shares, which is a light jet operator.
There are still opportunities out there for those who choose not to hang up the googles just yet.
Good luck.
I know a few chaps, same situation, >65 were hired with GAMA/Wheels up. They operate King Airs. ANother got on with executive shares, which is a light jet operator.
There are still opportunities out there for those who choose not to hang up the googles just yet.
Good luck.
#13
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Joined: Dec 2017
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From: Retired NJA & AA
I have an acquaintance of mine who is age 65 retired from USAir/American. He had no trouble getting hired to fly Caravans for a FedEx feeder. Went thru training but when it came time to fly the airplane he quickly got tired of doing the pretzel routine getting in/out of the Caravan. I also think the reality of single engine single pilot night freight hit him. He apologized to the employer and quit. But if you think you can handle it then check it out.
I see a lot of job postings on the NJA Union Message Board and pretty much all of them prefer type ratings in the same or similar jets to what that company is flying. Now with the diminishing pilot pool maybe that'll change.
Fractional flying is still a possibility, Flexjet/Flight Options are rumored to be having a tough time filling classes. But 8 on 6 off isn't my idea of a retirement job.
I see a lot of job postings on the NJA Union Message Board and pretty much all of them prefer type ratings in the same or similar jets to what that company is flying. Now with the diminishing pilot pool maybe that'll change.
Fractional flying is still a possibility, Flexjet/Flight Options are rumored to be having a tough time filling classes. But 8 on 6 off isn't my idea of a retirement job.
#15
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Joined: Oct 2012
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From: e145 fo
Recently retired from the best 121 job in the world. After 42 years of flying I still don’t want to give it up. Started in Lears flying freight. Thought getting a new job would be fairly easy. 65 is a huge barrier.
Charter with ICAO rules grounded me. 91 is the only option. Applied to nine different companies flying G5 and Globals. Did not get a bite.
Don’t know if they don’t like former airline or is it the age. I’m not in a wheel chair and I don’t even have any grey hair. Thinking about Netjets, Flexjet, or Jetsolutions.
Any advice?
If you young guys are headed to the majors be vigilant. I’ve had hundreds of F.O.’s that flew for prior carriers and if I was a young buck I would pick Delta, and stay away from United. They will furlough your butt in your new hire class.
Thanks
Charter with ICAO rules grounded me. 91 is the only option. Applied to nine different companies flying G5 and Globals. Did not get a bite.
Don’t know if they don’t like former airline or is it the age. I’m not in a wheel chair and I don’t even have any grey hair. Thinking about Netjets, Flexjet, or Jetsolutions.
Any advice?
If you young guys are headed to the majors be vigilant. I’ve had hundreds of F.O.’s that flew for prior carriers and if I was a young buck I would pick Delta, and stay away from United. They will furlough your butt in your new hire class.
Thanks
#16
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We’re in the same boat. At the risk of sounding arrogant, I will not spend the price of a new Jaguar on a type rating for an SIC seat with no time in type. Make no sense.
At the same time, if we want to keep flying, we must broaden our horizons. One thing for sure: after 3X years, No. More. Commuting.
At the same time, if we want to keep flying, we must broaden our horizons. One thing for sure: after 3X years, No. More. Commuting.
#17
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From: Retired NJA & AA
One other possibility is Flight Safety. Teaching Ground School and Simulator. FSI is having a tough time keeping instructors. I think their pay is somewhere north of $70K. I'm out on long term medical and considered FSI, but the closest facility is 1:40 driving time one way so it'd probably require a hotel/crash pad. Also, I went straight from the military to the airlines and never instructed so they'd have to be pretty desperate for me to get hired
#18
One other possibility is Flight Safety. Teaching Ground School and Simulator. FSI is having a tough time keeping instructors. I think their pay is somewhere north of $70K. I'm out on long term medical and considered FSI, but the closest facility is 1:40 driving time one way so it'd probably require a hotel/crash pad. Also, I went straight from the military to the airlines and never instructed so they'd have to be pretty desperate for me to get hired 

#19
Exclusive Jets in Kinston NC has Citation XL's and CJ2's.
Pay is not bad.
Home based.
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No offense but there are a lot of a-holes around that learned how to fly in the 60-ies and 70-ies.
Different mentality and such.
With all respect but that may work against you.
Pay is not bad.
Home based.
flyExclusive | Your Partner in Private Travel
No offense but there are a lot of a-holes around that learned how to fly in the 60-ies and 70-ies.
Different mentality and such.
With all respect but that may work against you.
#20
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FlightSafety will hire you. They like people with prior 121 time. You have to get out of the airline mode and remember that standardization at Pt.91 organizations is typically way different. There is no subscribed flows and calls outs are usually lacking. There are exceptions but it will be an adjustment. You can do contract flying on your days off depending on your center managers policy is on contract fying.


