ATFconsumer20

Union buster Russ Brown (the same lawyer who signed Woelke’s NMB petition) lays out the playbook they are following at Flexjet …

The Grover Norquist Show: Let Me Out: More and More Union Members Move to Decertify Their Unions

He says he was “helping to decertify” Allegiant flight attendants at 6:19>

But he was unsuccessful …

https://www.twu.org/allegiant-air-fl...irst-contract/

Blutarsky

This guy is the reason American, Southwest, UPS and now ALPA are sending out letters letting us know they are watching this. And he is why we will all be looked upon as pariahs if the Union is decertified. Don't think there won't be repercussions. This guy, Russ Brown, is looking to get a foot in the door to kill organized labor in aviation. Flexjet is just their first target.

Macjet

FlexJet is low hanging fruit. They are the most anti-union group of pilots that I've ever meet. They've enjoyed riding the coattails of the NetJets union effort for the last decade. Now let's see if they can stand on their own.

Flyrr

After careful observation my opinion is, Flexjet has a high percentage of selfish or just plain spineless aviators. They have no idea the benefits a Union contract provides.
They would rather beg for crumbs from management while standing on one of their fellow pilots throats!

Blutarsky

Unfortunately, I think you are right. I waited too long getting my resume out. I fear I may be caught in the crossfire. I'm collecting as much proof as I can that I am not a pariah, but how to convey that in an interview?

Jeff Lebowski

It likely won't even come up in an interview--at least, not in any direct line of questioning.

Your average panel interview lasts about ten minutes, if that. There's not a lot of time to get into all the byzantine b.s. surrounding the decert drive and the ancient history behind the Flops/Flex merger etc. And if you turn your interview into a rant against Kenn Ricci and his supporting cast of freaks, you might be shooting yourself in the foot. You don't want to come across as bitter. It's the kiss of death.

I could see a question like: "You've been there for X years. Why are you looking to move on now?" That's your opportunity to hint, obliquely, at the fact that the opportunities you'd hoped to see never quite materialized, that you flew with some great people and had some great experiences and will always be grateful, but the time finally came to make the hard decision to move on, for your sake and your family's, etc.

Believe it or not, most people could give .02 about what's happening at Flex/Flops. All they really care about is you.

You might want to invest in some interview prep once you get the call ...

frmrdashtrash

He's not the only reason we're watching. The entire industry has a direct interest in this.

No decert....

Blutarsky

I get there won't be any questions about it. But just having Flexjet as an employer will be a minus. Union leaders and volunteers are well aware of this assault on collective bargaining. I get comments in the terminal when I'm air lining, and my friends are asking me questions about how this could be. So you can't say this isn't on the radar.

rickair7777

Won't be an issue. Most of the people doing interviews are not Union Nazis, which is what they'd have to be to hold your previous company's union status against you. They have no way of knowing your personal opinion on the issue unless you were really out in public one way or the other. Being on the scab list might come back to haunt you.

rickair7777

Airline industry isn't watching. I only know because I'm a moderator and look at a bunch of stuff on APC. Sounds like Flex needs the union, but there's no risk of ALPA getting decertified at any airline. Well who knows about some dumpster fire regional. But if any of the big boys decertified, it would only be to change to another union... no major is going open shop.