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Old 02-19-2020, 06:34 PM
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you're sadly generalizing and talking like the people you are describing, including yourself in that group of weirdos. I have met the flat earths at 2 regionals, I was at a regional where FO's had about 5 to 10 Captains on their no-fly list (Captains couldn't have a no fly list) including in my base at least 6 that FOs would take an occurence and call sick to avoid, or call off mid-trip. so what you describe at NetJets, from my little experience and my buddies at SW, DL, UA, B6, Giant, NK and AA, happens EVERYWHERE. There are flat earners here, there are guys who believe each and every lies spewed by Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones every days, there is everything. What would you expect out of a group of 2500 people. Imagine what you find at the airlines where there are 12000+ pilots. I have sat in the jumpsuit of the 3 legacy on a regular basis and heard as much mind-blowing conspiracy theory crap than you did at NJA.

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Old 02-20-2020, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Shenzi105 View Post
you're sadly generalizing and talking like the people you are describing, including yourself in that group of weirdos. I have met the flat earths at 2 regionals, I was at a regional where FO's had about 5 to 10 Captains on their no-fly list (Captains couldn't have a no fly list) including in my base at least 6 that FOs would take an occurence and call sick to avoid, or call off mid-trip. so what you describe at NetJets, from my little experience and my buddies at SW, DL, UA, B6, Giant, NK and AA, happens EVERYWHERE. There are flat earners here, there are guys who believe each and every lies spewed by Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones every days, there is everything. What would you expect out of a group of 2500 people. Imagine what you find at the airlines where there are 12000+ pilots. I have sat in the jumpsuit of the 3 legacy on a regular basis and heard as much mind-blowing conspiracy theory crap than you did at NJA.

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I am sure you are correct. My personal experience with NJA was that there were lots of great people, but also lots of real oddballs and that was not something I had experienced before or since. I am sure it is a typical snapshot of any demographic at any large company.
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Old 02-20-2020, 01:54 PM
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I am sure you are correct. My personal experience with NJA was that there were lots of great people, but also lots of real oddballs and that was not something I had experienced before or since. I am sure it is a typical snapshot of any demographic at any large company.
That's true. I saw some very strange pilots in the US Air Force, and at US Airways, then at NetJets. Had one Captain at NetJets who carried on about all processed food being "poison", he grew his own food at his home. Had another who just came off medical leave and seemed very distracted, had to correct him a couple of times with low airspeed and trying to land on the wrong runway at IAD. Had a USAirways Captain that talked to God, and received responses . Had another one who flew P3's in the Navy and had a fairly serious narcissistic personality disorder. But he flew OK so I didn't care. He would go to dinner with new hire F/A's and then split the bill down to the penny. He got a lot of 1st dates but very few 2nd dates. He was the only pilot in his old Navy Squadron not invited to the reunion. I think most larger operations usually have their small % of oddball pilots.
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Old 02-20-2020, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by AirBear View Post
That's true. I saw some very strange pilots in the US Air Force, and at US Airways, then at NetJets. Had one Captain at NetJets who carried on about all processed food being "poison", he grew his own food at his home. Had another who just came off medical leave and seemed very distracted, had to correct him a couple of times with low airspeed and trying to land on the wrong runway at IAD. Had a USAirways Captain that talked to God, and received responses . Had another one who flew P3's in the Navy and had a fairly serious narcissistic personality disorder. But he flew OK so I didn't care. He would go to dinner with new hire F/A's and then split the bill down to the penny. He got a lot of 1st dates but very few 2nd dates. He was the only pilot in his old Navy Squadron not invited to the reunion. I think most larger operations usually have their small % of oddball pilots.
My favorite captain was the one who carried around a binder around and had a bunch of info on his iPhone/iPad about a species of part alien, part human beings that live underground. I just wish they would save that loony crap for day 4 or 5, and not on day 1 leg 1....
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Old 02-20-2020, 03:53 PM
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Recent pay info I received...
Your post has the current year 1 through year 4 First Officer pay scales. My post contains the Captain pay scales we currently have at Flexjet. We are currently upgrading in one year, so I posted the current Captain scales so you will know what your rate will be upon upgrade.
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Originally Posted by flyitfast View Post
Your post has the current year 1 through year 4 First Officer pay scales. My post contains the Captain pay scales we currently have at Flexjet. We are currently upgrading in one year, so I posted the current Captain scales so you will know what your rate will be upon upgrade.
flyitfast No worries. I was just sharing what I had received for those wondering what pay would look like in the beginning. Great to know that upgrades are happening more quickly! I appreciate the info.
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Originally Posted by Shenzi105 View Post
you're sadly generalizing and talking like the people you are describing, including yourself in that group of weirdos. I have met the flat earths at 2 regionals, I was at a regional where FO's had about 5 to 10 Captains on their no-fly list (Captains couldn't have a no fly list) including in my base at least 6 that FOs would take an occurence and call sick to avoid, or call off mid-trip. so what you describe at NetJets, from my little experience and my buddies at SW, DL, UA, B6, Giant, NK and AA, happens EVERYWHERE. There are flat earners here, there are guys who believe each and every lies spewed by Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones every days, there is everything. What would you expect out of a group of 2500 people. Imagine what you find at the airlines where there are 12000+ pilots. I have sat in the jumpsuit of the 3 legacy on a regular basis and heard as much mind-blowing conspiracy theory crap than you did at NJA.

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I would find it extremely unsettling to have the PIC believe the earth is flat. To the point I might have to talk to someone about it as a belief like that could even be dangerous.
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Old 02-21-2020, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Shenzi105 View Post
you're sadly generalizing and talking like the people you are describing, including yourself in that group of weirdos. I have met the flat earths at 2 regionals, I was at a regional where FO's had about 5 to 10 Captains on their no-fly list (Captains couldn't have a no fly list) including in my base at least 6 that FOs would take an occurence and call sick to avoid, or call off mid-trip. so what you describe at NetJets, from my little experience and my buddies at SW, DL, UA, B6, Giant, NK and AA, happens EVERYWHERE. There are flat earners here, there are guys who believe each and every lies spewed by Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones every days, there is everything. What would you expect out of a group of 2500 people. Imagine what you find at the airlines where there are 12000+ pilots. I have sat in the jumpsuit of the 3 legacy on a regular basis and heard as much mind-blowing conspiracy theory crap than you did at NJA.

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I would find it extremely unsettling to have the PIC believe the earth is flat. To the point I might have to talk to someone about it as a belief like that could even be dangerous.
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Old 02-21-2020, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by shrsailplanes View Post
I would find it extremely unsettling to have the PIC believe the earth is flat. To the point I might have to talk to someone about it as a belief like that could even be dangerous.

It should be an automatic disqualification to hold any professional certificate and rating, as well as being unable to hold a medical.
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