Retired 121 to fractional
01-14-2023, 12:34 PM
#221
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Joined APC: Jun 2019
Posts: 135
Originally Posted by jtf560
The FOs over 400K are 16+ years with the company in the large cabin fleets with 17 year pay scales and could be captain up through at least the Lattitude. I made well over 300K the last 2 years and am in year 17 now as an SIC. I worked a little over 200 days both years. The high extended day rate really cranks it up, but you are definitely working way more days for the money than at the airlines.
01-23-2023, 07:58 PM
#222
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2022
Posts: 182
Originally Posted by HeavyD
Live to work vs work to live. Since July '21 we have had too many of the former. The LOA signed last month fixed the 17-year HBA problem. It also reduced what little leverage we had to get an IBI sooner rather than later from the company. Making the VED/VAWD rate permanent plugs staffing holes for the company. It also makes after-midnights a non-event other than a potential Q-day. Long game vs short term. Sending the same people to the negotiating table for a fifth time doesn't give me high hopes either.
40-50% increases for everyone at DOS
FDP 0 (it’s never going away)
Road rest protections and “QOL” resolutions
More PTO and protections on the use of PTO
5th vacation week after 15 years
6/8 schedule
So I’m going to be a “no” vote. I should vote “yes” on anything with a signing bonus and enjoy my time until 1/10/24 but who am I kidding? With tweedle dee and tweedle dum negotiating we won’t have a TA by then anyway.
01-27-2023, 11:01 AM
#223
New Hire
Joined APC: Jan 2023
Position: C172, Left Seat
Posts: 1
Originally Posted by Boeing Aviator
My two cents. I’m a United pilot that provides career counseling and pilot mentoring to many pilots getting into the industry, some of who are in mid to late 50’s. Some who have been out of the industry for several decades.
We are on the cusp of a global pilot shortage. We are not there yet. There is a perfect storm in the brew on the horizon for the following factors:
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Any way best of luck, hope some of this info was helpful.
We are on the cusp of a global pilot shortage. We are not there yet. There is a perfect storm in the brew on the horizon for the following factors:
(Edited out...)
Any way best of luck, hope some of this info was helpful.
06-30-2023, 05:31 AM
#225
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 286
Originally Posted by Size11feet
I finally got my logbook in order. Do most fractionals want to see five pounds of paper or will a PDF suffice?
06-30-2023, 07:26 AM
#226
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Still in one
Posts: 784
Originally Posted by AA717driver
I had my last 15 years in a three ring binder. They didn’t even look at it.
Last edited by TANSTAAFL; 06-30-2023 at 07:51 AM.
06-30-2023, 11:30 AM
#227
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2015
Posts: 88
Originally Posted by AA717driver
I had my last 15 years in a three ring binder. They didn’t even look at it.
07-01-2023, 08:06 AM
#228
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 286
Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL
Had not done a paper (or any) log book since starting 121 since company tracked it all and did electronic summaries and month by month. Got a print out when I retired (early on COVID buyout) and my current employer took one look at my 25yr summary and said that’s all we need. Had several offers including another 121 who were fine with airline summary.
AA dug up 5 or 6 corpses and gave it to them.
I can’t let it go!
07-01-2023, 02:43 PM
#229
On Reserve
Joined APC: May 2023
Posts: 12
Do any of these fractionals do part time? I just want to get back into flying but not with the schedules you guys do. I don't need any benefits, not doing it for the money, would be happy as a permanent FO. I know I wouldn't last long at 7 on 7 off.
07-01-2023, 03:47 PM
#230
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 441
Originally Posted by Size11feet
Do any of these fractionals do part time? I just want to get back into flying but not with the schedules you guys do. I don't need any benefits, not doing it for the money, would be happy as a permanent FO. I know I wouldn't last long at 7 on 7 off.
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