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Old 01-25-2020, 01:38 PM
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What’s the topic for this thread again???? Talk about crazy thread drift....

How’s the Longitude launch going? I thought we would see more of those birds on the ramp by now. With the Latitude’s success, I am hopeful the Longitude will benefit from some upsell opportunities.... I suspect current Latitude, X and Sovereign owners will be impressed with it.

Question: how senior will the Longitude FO position likely go?
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Old 01-25-2020, 03:37 PM
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January 2015 got the bid for it.

Originally Posted by David Puddy View Post
What’s the topic for this thread again???? Talk about crazy thread drift....

How’s the Longitude launch going? I thought we would see more of those birds on the ramp by now. With the Latitude’s success, I am hopeful the Longitude will benefit from some upsell opportunities.... I suspect current Latitude, X and Sovereign owners will be impressed with it.

Question: how senior will the Longitude FO position likely go?
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Old 01-26-2020, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Shenzi105 View Post
and at the same time, if a pilot cannot fly the plane with the automation, he/she has no place in the cockpit. We aren't flying Piper Cubs or C172s anymore, we are flying airplanes often designed around the automation and made to fly with the automation. Pilots having trouble with the automation modes and having the plane not doing what they wanted it to do, need more training too. Hand flying cannot always be the solution for a pilot not "confident" with automation. Garbage in, garbage out. It's really a glance of both, fly the plane the way it was designed to be flow and have the hand flying skills when a situation requires it, be it automation system failure, or emergency avoidance of threat.

Exactly. Everything in moderation.
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Old 01-26-2020, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by germanaviator View Post
Wow, your reading comprehension is terrible
I said exactly what you are saying now a few posts up. Yet you insist to disagree categorically and you do that by only quoting parts of what I said earlier.

I have said all along: Auto throttles are like any other automation. You need to turn it off from time to time. Yet you repeatedly said auto throttles make for lazy pilots when the same could be said for autopilots. Go back and read it all and you'll see.

Oh, how many A/T equipped aircraft have you flown? I flew my first one 20 years ago for a few years straight and have since flown many types without A/T. My current type has them. No problems with the switch in either direction

What you said. 😃
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Old 01-26-2020, 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by David Puddy View Post
What’s the topic for this thread again???? Talk about crazy thread drift....

How’s the Longitude launch going? I thought we would see more of those birds on the ramp by now. With the Latitude’s success, I am hopeful the Longitude will benefit from some upsell opportunities.... I suspect current Latitude, X and Sovereign owners will be impressed with it.

Question: how senior will the Longitude FO position likely go?
Longitude has done some cold soak flying.

It seems that Textron is doing some final tweaks prior to NJA taking delivery of a BUNCH of them simultaneously. I’d look for the X to stand down quickly afterwards.

Sim is up and going through finals in CMH. By all accounts, the jet should prove worth the wait.
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Old 02-02-2020, 04:47 AM
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So what is a realistic first year pay for a Netjets FO? It seems rather confusing. I see guys posting they made 6 figures as an FO but their pay scale says $63k for the 7/7 schedule. What am I missing here?
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Old 02-02-2020, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Retractable View Post
Categorically disagree.

Evwrything in moderation... including Auto Throttles. Pilots who rely on them exclusively become too dependent on them and when one Master Caution appears knocking out the auto flight system, they lose their minds.
That is one of the crazier things I’ve read on this forum. On the ERJ, we let the AT’s do their thing when they can keep up and we help them along when they lag behind like the final stages of the arrival and especially on approach. Like any good pilot we monitor and guard the automation. No one ever freaks out if it stops working.
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Old 02-02-2020, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Bulldog08 View Post
So what is a realistic first year pay for a Netjets FO? It seems rather confusing. I see guys posting they made 6 figures as an FO but their pay scale says $63k for the 7/7 schedule. What am I missing here?
you get FDP once you pass 12.1 flight hours on a trip, which means you make $118/hr after you pass the 12.1. There is a lot of different soft pay that you get. I’m a year one FO and on pace to make 105k. I don’t extend at all either.
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Old 02-02-2020, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Bulldog08 View Post
So what is a realistic first year pay for a Netjets FO? It seems rather confusing. I see guys posting they made 6 figures as an FO but their pay scale says $63k for the 7/7 schedule. What am I missing here?
In addition to the overtime and FDP once on the line, you can plan on being on the 18-day training pay for around four months. There is no way to go your first year entirely on 7/7 pay.
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Old 02-02-2020, 10:15 AM
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Some 1st year pilot posted on one of these NJA threads that he was going to make around $150K 1st year. But that was by maxing everything out, working the 76 day schedule, Long Tours, getting a lot of FDP, etc. $100K is definitely doable.
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