Interview Date NetJets
#61
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2019
Position: Phenom driver
Posts: 147
I know the head of training at WN. He's a great dude. Former Delta guy. Lots of cool stories. He'll be the first one to tell you that WN isn't getting the quality of candidate that they used to.
We have a lot of NetJets, Flex, Citation Shares, Options, and random 135 and 91 guys with us. None of that changes the fact that they have the highest failure rate. Period. The guys that do make it through training are generally solid guys. The best guys coming through class though are former regional guys. 91/91k/135 is just a different animal. Lots of cowboys with very, very few SOP's. That just the nature of the beast. It isn't impossible to go from 91/135 to a 121 but it certainly is harder.
We have a lot of NetJets, Flex, Citation Shares, Options, and random 135 and 91 guys with us. None of that changes the fact that they have the highest failure rate. Period. The guys that do make it through training are generally solid guys. The best guys coming through class though are former regional guys. 91/91k/135 is just a different animal. Lots of cowboys with very, very few SOP's. That just the nature of the beast. It isn't impossible to go from 91/135 to a 121 but it certainly is harder.
#62
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: CA
Posts: 109
Spirit has undoubtedly had the worst training program of all 121 carriers the past few years! I’m not sure if it has improved in recent, but failure rates may not have as much to do with a pilots background as it does with a poorly ran training program!
#65
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2017
Position: Retired NJA & AA
Posts: 1,919
Something like 94% of the NJA Pilots live within 2 hours of a base. So unless you're out in a remote area of Wyoming or something you should be fine. Longest drive I ever heard of was a dual citizenship pilot who lived with his spouse in a Rocky Mountain Ski town in western Canada. He had about a 4 hour drive to Spokane.
#67
I left 2.5 years ago for swa. I enjoyed NJ and what it offered. The lack of movement and flying an xls for so long was a huge turnoff and forced me to look elsewhere. Absolutely no regrets all thing considering the current state we all face. NJ was never a bad place in my eyes, but it wasn’t a long term solution either.
#68
Speed, Power, Accuracy
Joined APC: Sep 2007
Position: PIC
Posts: 1,702
It’s a “location joke.” You have to be there to get it...
#69
It all depends on where they are on the seniority list on the reaction. You probably won’t get that funny look from a 20 year captain or soon to upgrade FO. It was taking 13-14 years for guys to upgrade. That’s mostly why you’ll get that reaction.
I was looking to leave until I upgraded to Captain. Now seeing that the majors may furlough, I’m very glad I stayed.
If it’s a FO that’s been on property less than 10 years, then yes you’ll probably get that reaction as to making NetJets a destination.
There’s hardly any movement, no retirement age, and it’s very difficult to determine your Netjets future.
Covid and slowing need for air travel probably just made that light at the end of the tunnel for FOs much dimmer.
Overall, it’s a great company but it’s not for everyone. I enjoy going to work and the people I fly with. It wasn’t always that way. Things have been much better since 2018.
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#70
Because a lot of people don’t view NJA as a career job. Lots of people love it, lots don’t. There is a host of reason to choose another career, but there are also a host of reasons to choose NJA. It wasn’t for me so I left, couldn’t be happier with the decision.
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