Breaking into Fractionals
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Breaking into Fractionals
I am currently considering the fractionals as my career choice. Currently I am flying in a 121/135 in Alaska and have reached 3000TT, 1000PIC, 2000Turbine. How hard is it to get into the fractionals listed in APC? Do you have to know somebody or just be a charming fellow who knows how to fly? It seems to me that the whole industry is overflowing with qualified pilots. I only have a 2 year degree. Would that be an obstacle in the fractionals, like the Majors? Anyways, enough questions. I would appreciate your feedback. Thanks again from Barrow, AK.
EJFFLYER
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Welcome aboard,
I hope this helps. Most fractionals like Netjets interview candidates with an ATP 2500 hoursTT, 500+ME, and turbine experience. 121/135 experience is great. You most likely fly part 91k (more intense then 91, but not as intence as 135) On the other hand Flight Options hires with 1500TT, ATP written, and 500 hours of twin time. I doubt that competative though.
As for the degree- A four year degree is always good. Its almost expected these days. I don't think the 2 year degree would set you back if you stressed finishing the 4 year. But there's a lot of guys out there with the 4 year degree to compete with.
If your looking at fractionals I'd suggest netjets- they just cleared up a whole lot of union/management issues that will make life there a whole lot easier for a co-pilot. flex schedual 7 on 7 off. Based in Columbus Ohio with bases all over. Usually start off in a Citation Ultra (V).
I you interview there get some citation sim time. Their sim tends to weed a lot of people out on the front end.
Another option is a straight 91 corporate which is nice while it last but tend to make people job hop like I've done.
Again, hope that helps.
I hope this helps. Most fractionals like Netjets interview candidates with an ATP 2500 hoursTT, 500+ME, and turbine experience. 121/135 experience is great. You most likely fly part 91k (more intense then 91, but not as intence as 135) On the other hand Flight Options hires with 1500TT, ATP written, and 500 hours of twin time. I doubt that competative though.
As for the degree- A four year degree is always good. Its almost expected these days. I don't think the 2 year degree would set you back if you stressed finishing the 4 year. But there's a lot of guys out there with the 4 year degree to compete with.
If your looking at fractionals I'd suggest netjets- they just cleared up a whole lot of union/management issues that will make life there a whole lot easier for a co-pilot. flex schedual 7 on 7 off. Based in Columbus Ohio with bases all over. Usually start off in a Citation Ultra (V).
I you interview there get some citation sim time. Their sim tends to weed a lot of people out on the front end.
Another option is a straight 91 corporate which is nice while it last but tend to make people job hop like I've done.
Again, hope that helps.
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Loudgarrettdriver,
Thanks a lot for the info. I do tend to lean towards the fractionals. Net jets sounds like a good idea. How expensive and where can I get citation sim time and what model for that matter. As corny as it may sound, I have been practicing on my microsoft flight simulator on the lear 45, without the autopilot. Anyway, thanks again for the reply and Ill wait for the next.
Sincerely,
ejfflyer
Thanks a lot for the info. I do tend to lean towards the fractionals. Net jets sounds like a good idea. How expensive and where can I get citation sim time and what model for that matter. As corny as it may sound, I have been practicing on my microsoft flight simulator on the lear 45, without the autopilot. Anyway, thanks again for the reply and Ill wait for the next.
Sincerely,
ejfflyer
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Originally Posted by ejfflyer
How hard is it to get into the fractionals listed in APC?
http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/bc/fractional.htm
Good Luck in your search but I can't understand why you would want to leave Barrow
#7
Originally Posted by ASACapt
so where can get inexpensive Citation sim time for the NetJets interview?
ASACAPT
ASACAPT
The instrument panel layout is exactly the same as the Citation II FTD they use in Columbus for the interview. (round dials)
For me, this was way less expensive than buying sim time and did the trick. (I got hired and start class next month)
Since you're at ASA, I assume you're flying the CRJ and are used to glass. Don't sweat it. The good news is that the FTD in Columbus has round-dials on the left (Captain's side) and glass on the right (FO's side) and they let you fly whichever side you want.
I recommend you go ahead and download the software (round-dials and all), fly the heck out of it to get your scan really sharp, then fly your interview ride from the right seat to take advantage of the glass.
You also get a manual trim wheel on the right seat. (Captain's chair has electric trim only) I found this to work out much better since I was able to find the "sweet spot" by sense of touch and could trim that sucker into submission.
Hope this helps! Good luck!
Last edited by jetlag7; 12-23-2005 at 08:54 PM.
#8
Originally Posted by ASACapt
so where can get inexpensive Citation sim time for the NetJets interview?
ASACAPT
ASACAPT
The instrument panel layout is exactly the same as the Citation II FTD they use in Columbus for the interview. (round dials)
For me, this was way less expensive than buying sim time and did the trick. (I got hired and start class next month)
Since you're at ASA, I assume you're flying the CRJ and are used to glass. Don't sweat it. The good news is that the FTD in Columbus has round-dials on the left (Captain's side) and glass on the right (FO's side) and they let you fly whichever side you want.
I recommend you go ahead and download the software (round-dials and all), fly the heck out of it to get your scan really sharp, then fly your interview ride from the right seat to take advantage of the glass.
You also get a manual trim wheel on the right seat. (Captain's chair has electric trim only) I found this to work out much better since I was able to find the "sweet spot" by sense of touch and could trim that sucker into submission.
Hope this helps! Good luck!
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