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Old 02-26-2018, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ibpilot72 View Post
I've read on a few other threads that there has been an increase in the rate of those washing out of training. Any insight as to what the issue(s) seems to be, or what background these folks have? Just curious as to what folks can do to better to prepare for training and be successful. I only ask as I have been invited to interview, but my entire background has been Pt 91 corporate.
Don’t worry about it, honestly going though training at F9 was great. Everybody wants you to succeed. Study, listen, and show up with a good attitude. If guys are washing out I’m guessing they had a problem with one of those three things.
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Old 02-26-2018, 12:19 PM
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Don’t worry about it, honestly going though training at F9 was great. Everybody wants you to succeed. Study, listen, and show up with a good attitude. If guys are washing out I’m guessing they had a problem with one of those three things.
But not if they changed the training program to bare bones minimums. It could be overwhelming to someone without 121 experience. Just my 2 cents. Be careful as a 121 training failure could be a career killer.
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Old 02-26-2018, 01:17 PM
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But not if they changed the training program to bare bones minimums. It could be overwhelming to someone without 121 experience. Just my 2 cents. Be careful as a 121 training failure could be a career killer.
"IF" they changed...the Training Department is probably the strongest part of the airline right now. Consistent, and they do want you to pass. With that said, I don't think they're going to hold your hand past a certain point, and several have passed that point in recent history, from what I understand.

"Career killer"? A bit dramatic, don't you think? I know plenty of people who have successfully continued to other 121 jobs with 121 busts. Multiple 121 busts? Absolutely. One? I disagree.

Just study, cooperate and graduate. Politics/contract/morale aside, the pilots still treat each other pretty well. Good place to work from that end of things.
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Old 02-26-2018, 01:42 PM
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"IF" they changed...the Training Department is probably the strongest part of the airline right now. Consistent, and they do want you to pass. With that said, I don't think they're going to hold your hand past a certain point, and several have passed that point in recent history, from what I understand.

"Career killer"? A bit dramatic, don't you think? I know plenty of people who have successfully continued to other 121 jobs with 121 busts. Multiple 121 busts? Absolutely. One? I disagree.

Just study, cooperate and graduate. Politics/contract/morale aside, the pilots still treat each other pretty well. Good place to work from that end of things.
I agree our training Dept is very good and I think our training is fairly easy Never said anything to the contrary. But I wouldn't be talking anyone into coming here until there's a contract. And still waiting for someone in the "Know" to confirm my earlier statements about the change in new hire program.
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Old 02-27-2018, 04:37 AM
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The people I know that washed out of training when I went through had no business in the cockpit of an Airbus and it was after they had extra sim sessions, they just didn’t get it.
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The people I know that washed out of training when I went through had no business in the cockpit of an Airbus and it was after they had extra sim sessions, they just didn’t get it.
Were they prior 121. What background did they have.
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Old 02-27-2018, 05:04 AM
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Were they prior 121. What background did they have.
Yeah low time crj guy.
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Old 02-27-2018, 06:55 AM
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Yeah low time crj guy.
So a CRJ guy couldn’t figure it out? I would have figured that if a person can fly a CRJ, then they should be able to fly an Airbus. All I’ve every known is Citations (Ultra/XL/XLS+), which are all easy to learn. Wonder how learning the A320 would compare when it comes to learning systems and avionics.
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Originally Posted by ibpilot72 View Post
So a CRJ guy couldn’t figure it out? I would have figured that if a person can fly a CRJ, then they should be able to fly an Airbus. All I’ve every known is Citations (Ultra/XL/XLS+), which are all easy to learn. Wonder how learning the A320 would compare when it comes to learning systems and avionics.
Try not to compare someone's past experience with abilities. The training dept is very fair and people don't make it for all sorts of reasons.
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Washout rates have steadily increased since I was hired last year. None in my class but the next class had 2 out of 14 washout. Subsequent classes had a similar washout rate. I don’t know the background on the few that washed out. What I do know is you better come prepared.
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