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Duct Mon 06-27-2018 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by Ohreallynow (Post 2623193)
Up to 15 today. Something seems fishy compared to recent months where they wouldn't cancel a thing.

Lawsuit is coming. Can those mgmt trollls confirm?

DENpilot 06-27-2018 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Ohreallynow (Post 2623193)
Up to 15 today. Something seems fishy compared to recent months where they wouldn't cancel a thing.

Up to 22 now... the big difference is that we have no room for recovery.


Originally Posted by Duct Mon (Post 2623212)
Lawsuit is coming. Can those mgmt trollls confirm?

A lawsuit? Against who and for what?

Ohreallynow 06-27-2018 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Duct Mon (Post 2623212)
Lawsuit is coming. Can those mgmt trollls confirm?

Not sure why everyone thinks that. They didn't file one during the last melt down.

DENpilot 06-27-2018 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by Ohreallynow (Post 2623315)
Not sure why everyone thinks that. They didn't file one during the last melt down.

They need some kind of basis to file one. There is none against the work groups. Incentivized trips are still being picked up, and we're still doing our job.

Now mgmnt folks, that's another story. Someone should be fired for this. I'm thinking Pat Ryan would be a great place to start. He controls the staffing. Then I'd fire the idiot who runs SOC... They need to do something to get this place back on track. Then I'd fire someone high up in maintenance. We had an airplane overly an MEL drop dead date last week. That blame lies on them.

Blueskies67 06-28-2018 10:51 AM

These cancellations aren’t due to crew shortages. Flights off my schedule are canceling we’re seeing 6-9+ hour delays due to mtx/no spare aircraft, then they cancel the flight a couple hours till.

Yabadaba 06-28-2018 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by DENpilot (Post 2623323)

Now mgmnt folks, that's another story. Someone should be fired for this. I'm thinking Pat Ryan would be a great place to start. He controls the staffing. Then I'd fire the idiot who runs SOC... They need to do something to get this place back on track. Then I'd fire someone high up in maintenance. We had an airplane overly an MEL drop dead date last week. That blame lies on them.

I couldn’t agree more. The incompetence starts with the management. There is no accountability. Staffing, schedules, SOC decisions, MELs... how can you not walk to the bus shaking your head?

MCDUie 06-28-2018 05:05 PM

Well, I don’t know how many times we can suggest a thread be closed before the venting of frustrated pilots falls into the wrong hands. On a side note, congratulations to all of those whose quotes made the letter. Impressive work.

Planedrive 06-28-2018 06:18 PM

This is nothing more than a delay tactic, management knows we did nothing wrong. The increased delays are a direct result of understaffed and outsourced work. Keep your head in the game. PBS and a TRO were Spirit management’s last play as well. The end is near!

Wheelswatch 06-29-2018 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by Planedrive (Post 2624183)
This is nothing more than a delay tactic, management knows we did nothing wrong. The increased delays are a direct result of understaffed and outsourced work. Keep your head in the game. PBS and a TRO were Spirit management’s last play as well. The end is near!

But I don't want a TRO or PBS.

CantStayAway 06-29-2018 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by Wheelswatch (Post 2624567)
But I don't want a TRO or PBS.

Nobody does, but don’t forget that a TRO does NOT equal PBS. The pilots will get to vote on something eventually. Just because the pilot group is threatened (by both ALPA and the company) doesn’t mean they have to cave. This isn’t over until the pilots vote 50% +1 in favor of a contract.


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